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Maybe it's time to re-visit that "spy chip" story from almost a decade ago. Edit: Officially-debunked, I should note

CamperBob2 7mo ago
Yes, debunked or at least never backed up any actual evidence. (Allegedly) just some Bloomberg (alleged) bullshittery, (allegedly) posted to move the market.
- monocasa 7mo ago
  Well, also had other pen testers come forward saying that they had found implants on supermicro servers and had talked to federal authorities who had said it was a known relatively large issue they were trying to get a handle on while keeping it under wraps. And if it were posted to move the market, that would have been about the most cut and dry SEC violation possible, posted at a time when the federal government still enforced such things.
  - CamperBob2 7mo ago
    Well, also had other pen testers come forward saying that they had found implants on supermicro servers and had talked to federal authorities who had said it was a known relatively large issue they were trying to get a handle on while keeping it under wraps. Jeez, if only they had said that all these unnamed pen testers had said they had found implants and had talked to all these unnamed federal authorities, I'd have approached the question with an entirely different set of Bayesian priors! Thanks for filling in the blanks on that. And if it were posted to move the market, that would have been about the most cut and dry SEC violation possible, posted at a time when the federal government still enforced such things. It's (allegedly) company policy: https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/12/the-bloomberg-market-moving-bonus-179407 https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/12/the-bloomberg-m...
    - monocasa 7mo ago
      There's been plenty of computer security issues wrt state actors that we in the industry assume is true, without any actual evidence beyond a whistleblower saying that it happened combined with plausibility that it could have happened. Room 641A is a good example. And the bonus is for true information. My point was that the only reason to move the market with false information was for market manipulation.
- midtake 7mo ago
  Whenever some soylent-drinking, impossible foods-eating dilettante says "debunked" I find myself not fully believing them. And Supermicro has always been sus. I can't believe people are only just now noticing.
- phendrenad2 7mo ago
  Yeah my point was more,.. let's examine what led to this article being created. I.E. if the cofounder was up to something shady, maybe he also made that story up for some reason (buy more stock at a discount?). Just a baseless suspicion, I admit.

Yes, debunked or at least never backed up any actual evidence. (Allegedly) just some Bloomberg (alleged) bullshittery, (allegedly) posted to move the market.

monocasa 7mo ago
Well, also had other pen testers come forward saying that they had found implants on supermicro servers and had talked to federal authorities who had said it was a known relatively large issue they were trying to get a handle on while keeping it under wraps. And if it were posted to move the market, that would have been about the most cut and dry SEC violation possible, posted at a time when the federal government still enforced such things.
- CamperBob2 7mo ago
  Well, also had other pen testers come forward saying that they had found implants on supermicro servers and had talked to federal authorities who had said it was a known relatively large issue they were trying to get a handle on while keeping it under wraps. Jeez, if only they had said that all these unnamed pen testers had said they had found implants and had talked to all these unnamed federal authorities, I'd have approached the question with an entirely different set of Bayesian priors! Thanks for filling in the blanks on that. And if it were posted to move the market, that would have been about the most cut and dry SEC violation possible, posted at a time when the federal government still enforced such things. It's (allegedly) company policy: https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/12/the-bloomberg-market-moving-bonus-179407 https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/12/the-bloomberg-m...
  - monocasa 7mo ago
    There's been plenty of computer security issues wrt state actors that we in the industry assume is true, without any actual evidence beyond a whistleblower saying that it happened combined with plausibility that it could have happened. Room 641A is a good example. And the bonus is for true information. My point was that the only reason to move the market with false information was for market manipulation.
midtake 7mo ago
Whenever some soylent-drinking, impossible foods-eating dilettante says "debunked" I find myself not fully believing them. And Supermicro has always been sus. I can't believe people are only just now noticing.
phendrenad2 7mo ago
Yeah my point was more,.. let's examine what led to this article being created. I.E. if the cofounder was up to something shady, maybe he also made that story up for some reason (buy more stock at a discount?). Just a baseless suspicion, I admit.