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I don't see how this matters. Whoever thinks I'm horrible is 100% allowed to say this after I'm dead.
by praptak 7mo ago
I don't see how this matters. Whoever thinks I'm horrible is 100% allowed to say this after I'm dead.
- claytongulick 7mo agoOr, another option is that we could all give grace to others, even (especially) if they disagree with us.
- ericwood 7mo agoThere's disagreement then there's being an outspoken supporter of systematically trying to strip rights away from others because of your religious beliefs. It's much deeper than having differing views on fiscal policy.
- majorchord 7mo agoYour political opposite can and does say the exact same thing about you.
- ericwood 7mo agoThey would be liars, then.
- ranger_danger 7mo agoLiars according to who? Who gets to say what's a lie? This would still be just as pointless of an argument IMO... I think parent commenter is saying that you simply can't play the same game they are because you look identical to them from the outside; you're both saying the same thing. Left says you're trying to take rights away... Right says you're trying to take rights away. This does nothing to educate anyone or try to find a mutually agreeable solution... your arguments carry no more weight than theirs do. You both think you're "right" and the other is "wrong".
- ericwood 7mo agoThose are pretty wild accusations from someone who doesn't know me or my beliefs. I definitely have not been calling for those things, especially not through the lens of religion. Everything I said here in regards to his beliefs can be easily verified. It's crazy to me to respond "well you're doing the same to them" as a retort. I'm not?
- AlexeyBelov 7mo agoYeah, Nazis in the 30s and people opposing them were just the same. They could have used all the same arguments!
- ahhhhnoooo 7mo agoDisagree? I think it's safe to say that someone who campaigned to ban same sex marriage is more than just disagreeing. He's trying to ruin millions of lives. He was an Obama birther conspiracist. He thought gays shouldn't be allowed to join Boy Scouts. He was a big supporter of Netanyahu. This aren't things that are even remotely in the same ballpark as disagreement. If someone is using their celebrity status to cause harm to millions or tens of millions, I think we can say a few unkind words about them when they go.
- miltonlost 7mo agoDon't give grace to racists who spout birther conspiracy theories. Don't give grace to homophobes.
- ericjmorey 7mo agoWho are you granting grace to? Who are you denying it to? We know the answers to these questions for Norris.
- kelnos 7mo agoI'm fine with people disagreeing with me. I'm not fine when that disagreement results in campaigning for legally restricting the rights of others. There's a huge difference. If every racist, homophobe, and transphobe (and others) would stop trying to enshrine their views into law, I'd have much less of a problem with them. I wouldn't want to hang out with them, but I could safely ignore and not care one bit about their views.