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Many of the threats to a carrier aren’t nation states with a constellation of satellites.

by 4fterd4rk 7mo ago

snowwrestler 7mo ago
You can buy satellite imaging. Operationally, navies with carriers assume that opponents know where they are.
- Someone 7mo ago
  Commercial image providers can delay their images. See for example https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260310-us-satellite-firm-extends-middle-east-image-delay https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260310-us-satellite-...: “American firm Planet Labs PBC on Tuesday said it now imposes a two-week delay for access to its satellite images of the Middle East because of the US-Israeli war against Iran.”
  - filleduchaos 7mo ago
    Do you seriously think they were referring to commercial image providers when they mentioned nation-states being able to buy images/tracking?
    - Someone 7mo ago
      Yes. https://www.satellitetoday.com/imagery-and-sensing/2025/05/19/commercial-satellite-imagery-leaders-see-increased-international-demand/ https://www.satellitetoday.com/imagery-and-sensing/2025/05/1...: “BlackSky CEO Brian O’Toole echoed “strong momentum” from international government customers, saying these governments want to move faster with commercial capabilities. […] Motoyuki Arai, CEO of Japanese synthetic aperture radar (SAR) company Synspective said that he sees “huge demand” from the Japan Ministry of Defense […] Speaking to commercial imagery’s role in Ukraine, Capella Space CEO Frank Backes said Ukraine showed the value of Earth Observation (EO) data from a military tactical perspective and not just an intelligence perspective — driven by speed of access.”
      - filleduchaos 7mo ago
        I phrased that badly, what I meant is two things in one and I mashed them together: - do you think nation-states have the same commercial relationship with the ultimate sources of their satellite imagery as the general public? To me that makes about as much sense as thinking that Facebook won't reveal your private messages to specific governments because they won't reveal them to some third-party advertiser. - do you think nation-states that are your opponents would be getting their services from commercial image providers that are loyal to you? The American companies you list are far from the only ones on the planet that provide satellite imagery as a service.
nitwit005 7mo ago
Everyone who's a threat to the carrier can get that from an ally. You can damage or sink an ordinary ship with a bombing, like what happened to the USS Cole, but a carrier will have a fleet escorting them.

Many of the threats to a carrier aren’t nation states with a constellation of satellites.

snowwrestler 7mo ago

You can buy satellite imaging. Operationally, navies with carriers assume that opponents know where they are.

Someone 7mo ago
Commercial image providers can delay their images. See for example https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260310-us-satellite-firm-extends-middle-east-image-delay https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260310-us-satellite-...: “American firm Planet Labs PBC on Tuesday said it now imposes a two-week delay for access to its satellite images of the Middle East because of the US-Israeli war against Iran.”
- filleduchaos 7mo ago
  Do you seriously think they were referring to commercial image providers when they mentioned nation-states being able to buy images/tracking?
  - Someone 7mo ago
    Yes. https://www.satellitetoday.com/imagery-and-sensing/2025/05/19/commercial-satellite-imagery-leaders-see-increased-international-demand/ https://www.satellitetoday.com/imagery-and-sensing/2025/05/1...: “BlackSky CEO Brian O’Toole echoed “strong momentum” from international government customers, saying these governments want to move faster with commercial capabilities. […] Motoyuki Arai, CEO of Japanese synthetic aperture radar (SAR) company Synspective said that he sees “huge demand” from the Japan Ministry of Defense […] Speaking to commercial imagery’s role in Ukraine, Capella Space CEO Frank Backes said Ukraine showed the value of Earth Observation (EO) data from a military tactical perspective and not just an intelligence perspective — driven by speed of access.”
    - filleduchaos 7mo ago
      I phrased that badly, what I meant is two things in one and I mashed them together: - do you think nation-states have the same commercial relationship with the ultimate sources of their satellite imagery as the general public? To me that makes about as much sense as thinking that Facebook won't reveal your private messages to specific governments because they won't reveal them to some third-party advertiser. - do you think nation-states that are your opponents would be getting their services from commercial image providers that are loyal to you? The American companies you list are far from the only ones on the planet that provide satellite imagery as a service.

nitwit005 7mo ago

Everyone who's a threat to the carrier can get that from an ally. You can damage or sink an ordinary ship with a bombing, like what happened to the USS Cole, but a carrier will have a fleet escorting them.