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Delphi 13.1 Released, with ARM64 support
- andsoitis 7mo agoDelphi's great. You can rapidly create apps for Windows, macOS, Linux, iOS, and Android.
- davikr 7mo agoI tried Lazarus recently, but I found the IDE to be slow.
- 1313ed01 7mo agoI have not tried the IDE, but I like FreePascal. The compiler is fast and it has great multiplatform and cross-compilation support. In particular for older platforms. It feels more stable and mature than most other languages. I do not know if there are enough developers keeping it alive, but hopefully it will mostly get bug fixes and ports to new platforms. Better if they do not mess with the language or standard libraries. Those that want a programming language that keeps breaking backwards compatibility every few months have plenty to choose from already.
- wolvesechoes 7mo agoSlow compared to what? It is snappier than Vscode, VS or Jetbrains UIs.
- lpcvoid 7mo agoDelphi is still the absolute fastest way to create win32 gui applications, and anybody who disagrees has never used it. Lazarus is a pretty sweet solution on Linux (or Codetyphoon, if you want more out of the box components).
- HauntingPin 7mo agoWhat's the relationship between Delphi and Lazarus?
- tonyedgecombe 7mo agoPascal
- utopcell 7mo agoIt's a Delphi-compatible IDE: https://www.lazarus-ide.org/ https://www.lazarus-ide.org/
- KronisLV 7mo agoDelphi is commercial: https://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/product-editions https://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/product-editions Lazarus is free with no artificial limitations, for FreePascal: https://www.lazarus-ide.org/ https://www.lazarus-ide.org/
- baal80spam 7mo agoIs it? What about Autohotkey, or Visual Studio?
- mauriciolange 7mo agoTwo very different solutions. Autohotkey is a scripting language for specific tasks, while Delphi is unbounded in this sense. And Visual Studio has no RAD concept.
- sumnole 7mo agoVisual Studio has WinForms, which is pretty RAD.
- NetMageSCW 7mo agoAnd I think preferable to the XML split of code and GUI that is web like and how Microsoft’s other frameworks work.
- anakaine 7mo agoIt is absolutely preferable in that sense. The web-esq interface approach is far harder than it needs to be for small applications with basic interfaces.
- pjmlp 7mo agoI disagree, because C++ Builder also exists. :) Although .NET also follows along, pity that it took so many years for Microsoft to actually care about native compilation beyond NGEN.
- OCTAGRAM 7mo agoDid .NET manage to get rid of unsolicited tracing garbage collection?
- pjmlp 7mo agoDepends on how you write program, there are enough language features for low level coding and value types. Additionally lets not pretend Delphi doesn't have issues with memory and resources tracking. Even the whole reference counting support only applies to COM types, or when targeting Apple platforms. Which have had various changes to their behaviour across Delphi version. Other than that it is as it has always been since Turbo Pascal days.
- CodesInChaos 7mo agoI think C#'s WinForms is just as productive as Delphi's VCL. Unfortunately Microsoft abandoned it. Though I only used older versions of Delphi, so I don't know if recent improvements made it pull ahead. However both have limitations in more complex areas, such as rich text (html), data binding and targeting mobile and desktop with a mostly shared code-base.
- vbezhenar 7mo agoFrom $960 + $399/year. I think it's quite an accomplishment to survive in the modern world of free software development tools.
- giancarlostoro 7mo agoYeah, I'm surprised they haven't just made a hobbyist tier. Especially when FreePascal allows you to make UIs with Lazarus for free.
- vbezhenar 7mo agoThey have free community edition. Main restriction seems to be: "If you're an individual, you may use Delphi CE to create apps for your own use and apps that you can sell until your revenue reaches US$5,000 per year." So should be perfectly enough for hobbyist.
- giancarlostoro 7mo agoI tried it, it would not compile some of the templates it came with for me. Their QA process must be terrible.
- _fizz_buzz_ 7mo agoThere is still a lot of legacy software out there. I worked on something for a little bit (probably around 10 years ago).
- OCTAGRAM 7mo agoNew Delphi software is welcome!
- wongarsu 7mo agoThe C# world also has quite a few paid libraries, especially for UI stuff. Quite a few years ago I worked at a company using Delphi, and judging by their homepage they are still using it. A company making industrial machinery, with a tiny internal software department for the software for provisioning and maintaining the machines, as well as the control room software. Usability and development velocity is more important than looking hip, and easy access to hardware interfaces is paramount. And compared to developer salaries those license costs really aren't that bad
- nazgulsenpai 7mo agoGlad to see Delphi still alive and being developed. I never used it much but I did use C++ Builder Explorer or something that they released for free probably 10+ years ago. Also does anyone remember Kylix, Borland's short lived Delphi for Linux? Unimportant tangent, but I think FireMonkey is a terrible name for a UI framework. I don't know why, but I hate it.