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I don't understand how this can be economically viable. If this takes off, it will allow businesses to use openclaw-like functionality at non-api prices (pro, m
by ed_mercer 7mo ago
I don't understand how this can be economically viable. If this takes off, it will allow businesses to use openclaw-like functionality at non-api prices (pro, max).
- tpt2 7mo agoDo you know for sure if the pro / max plans are unprofitable at full usage? I did a brief back of the envelope calculation for minimax m2.5 comparing its api pricing to my token usage on a full quota max 20x Claude plan, it worked out around 260 ish which assuming some margin would put the Claude max around breakeven.
- CuriouslyC 7mo agoAnthropic previously shared that they make ~60% margin on API access. So they're losing money on plan whales.
- levocardia 7mo agoIt doesn't matter if they are unprofitable at full usage, as long as there are enough users (like me!) who barely ever max out but still pay the $100/month. The people who love Claude Code enough to max out the 20x plan every day, that's probably the best influencer marketing campaign you could ever buy anyways.