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At this point the limitation is even requiring a terminal in the first place. Claude Code daemon mode in background when?

by 2001zhaozhao 7mo ago

ai_fry_ur_brain 7mo ago
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- wbobeirne 7mo ago
  I'm willing to bet that many people produce code with Claude code that you would not be able to distinguish from a skilled human. Every tool has its uses and misuses. Edit: just noticed the username.
  - wahnfrieden 7mo ago
    Troll account. Don’t engage
    - ai_fry_ur_brain 7mo ago
      Im not trolling, I mean what my username says. Look at what maps apps did to peoples ability to navigate. https://www.media.mit.edu/projects/your-brain-on-chatgpt/overview/ https://www.media.mit.edu/projects/your-brain-on-chatgpt/ove...
  - ai_fry_ur_brain 7mo ago
    Yeah, sorry I dont know a single engineer working outside of web development, on serious problems (that arent machine learning related) that think this about llm produced code. The people saying this have already fried their engineering intuition by using agents (if they had any before) and are probably writing http handlers and identical (to every other llm generated) frontend landing pages all day everyday, for their next "indie SaaS product" (thats definitely not the 500th version of that product). You're doing magic tricks on yourself, the equivalent of a toddler being entertained by the sound their vecro shoes make. Or more accurately, the a gambler behaves after they think they've become profitable. https://www.media.mit.edu/projects/your-brain-on-chatgpt/overview/ https://www.media.mit.edu/projects/your-brain-on-chatgpt/ove...
theParadox42 7mo ago
Just switch it to a background process with Ctrl-Z $ bg Or run it in tmux so you can pull it up on demand and have it open at startup.
- athrowaway3z 7mo ago
  I'm using `pi` as my agent and build my entire agent orchestration on like 4 skills to start / stop / capture / await a set of tmux-bash & tmux-pi sessions. This is the first time in a few months I might actually try `claude` cli again to try out this channels scheme.
  - nebben64 7mo ago
    people who use pi: is this stuff easy? do I just clone the repo and give SKILL.md arguments to implement features & customize ??
  - miroljub 7mo ago
    Why not just "pi install npm:@e9n/pi-channels" ? It was there before Claude copied it.
dbbk 7mo ago
They already have cloud environments you can use, though they're fragile as glass
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evanpurkhiser 7mo ago
I’ve been using opencode’s server command as a systemd unit on my home server. I connect to it with the desktop and mobile client. Use it for a bunch of openclaw-esq things, but with a nicer interface. I think CC does have “remote control” now which I think would work similar, but it’s Max only right now
- Galanwe 7mo ago
  I tried various solutions around this. CloudCLI (ex claudecodeui) looked promising, but very buggy (disconnects, UI overlapping text, etc). Tried Claude Remote Control as well, but also very buggy, websocket disconnecting, UI broken. I ended up just running Claude code in a dtach+ttyd session. Still not the best, as xterm.js has tons of issues with long scrollbacks, but it's at least somewhat _usable_.
  - simosmik 7mo ago
    Hello Galanwe, CloudCLI author here. This is a fair criticism and something we are actively working on. The older versions had real issues with websocket stability and the chat ui. We shipped a pretty big refactor yesterday that should fix most the disconnects and page rendering issues. Would be worth another look if you have a few minutes. If you hit anything else, feel free to reach out to me personally (email in my hn profile) or via the discord channel we have. Always useful hearing from people who actually tried it and ran want to make it better
    - Galanwe 7mo ago
      Hey, thanks for jumping in. So I did spend some time retrying it today, and while I can see some improvements, it is still not in a shape where I trust it enough to replace ttyd. Some feedbacks: - The UI is bloated with not-so-useful widgets which take a lot of space. On my S22 Ultra, arguably a screen on the larger side of the spectrum, around 60% of the screen real estate is used for non-chat purpose. If I start to enter text, that jumps to 90% of the screen for widgets, and can see barely a line or two of chat history while typing. Most of these widgets are options that you maybe change once in a while (thinking mode, model selection) but don't need to have all the time above the text input. Same for the "Processing / Stop generation" widget, it takes 20% of the screen. - The login flow is broken. I have to login two times in a row for it to work. Also if anything goes wrong during login, there is no error message and you're just not logged, and end up trying to login through the shell tab, which is painful. - I still have issues with answers appearing below the text input, effectively hiding the last lines of the answers. Much less than in the previous version, but it does still happen. Refreshing the page fixes it though, which is a win compared to before. - Sometimes my last message appears at the very bottom of the chat as if I retyped it. Refreshing the page make it disappear. - Unclear to me what the right hand side options do. I tried many of them and can't tell a difference.
ramraj07 7mo ago
Start in a tmux session and let it run ?

At this point the limitation is even requiring a terminal in the first place. Claude Code daemon mode in background when?

ai_fry_ur_brain 7mo ago

[flagged]

wbobeirne 7mo ago
I'm willing to bet that many people produce code with Claude code that you would not be able to distinguish from a skilled human. Every tool has its uses and misuses. Edit: just noticed the username.
- wahnfrieden 7mo ago
  Troll account. Don’t engage
  - ai_fry_ur_brain 7mo ago
    Im not trolling, I mean what my username says. Look at what maps apps did to peoples ability to navigate. https://www.media.mit.edu/projects/your-brain-on-chatgpt/overview/ https://www.media.mit.edu/projects/your-brain-on-chatgpt/ove...
- ai_fry_ur_brain 7mo ago
  Yeah, sorry I dont know a single engineer working outside of web development, on serious problems (that arent machine learning related) that think this about llm produced code. The people saying this have already fried their engineering intuition by using agents (if they had any before) and are probably writing http handlers and identical (to every other llm generated) frontend landing pages all day everyday, for their next "indie SaaS product" (thats definitely not the 500th version of that product). You're doing magic tricks on yourself, the equivalent of a toddler being entertained by the sound their vecro shoes make. Or more accurately, the a gambler behaves after they think they've become profitable. https://www.media.mit.edu/projects/your-brain-on-chatgpt/overview/ https://www.media.mit.edu/projects/your-brain-on-chatgpt/ove...

theParadox42 7mo ago

Just switch it to a background process with Ctrl-Z $ bg Or run it in tmux so you can pull it up on demand and have it open at startup.

athrowaway3z 7mo ago
I'm using `pi` as my agent and build my entire agent orchestration on like 4 skills to start / stop / capture / await a set of tmux-bash & tmux-pi sessions. This is the first time in a few months I might actually try `claude` cli again to try out this channels scheme.
- nebben64 7mo ago
  people who use pi: is this stuff easy? do I just clone the repo and give SKILL.md arguments to implement features & customize ??
- miroljub 7mo ago
  Why not just "pi install npm:@e9n/pi-channels" ? It was there before Claude copied it.

dbbk 7mo ago

They already have cloud environments you can use, though they're fragile as glass

deleted 7mo ago

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evanpurkhiser 7mo ago

I’ve been using opencode’s server command as a systemd unit on my home server. I connect to it with the desktop and mobile client. Use it for a bunch of openclaw-esq things, but with a nicer interface. I think CC does have “remote control” now which I think would work similar, but it’s Max only right now

Galanwe 7mo ago
I tried various solutions around this. CloudCLI (ex claudecodeui) looked promising, but very buggy (disconnects, UI overlapping text, etc). Tried Claude Remote Control as well, but also very buggy, websocket disconnecting, UI broken. I ended up just running Claude code in a dtach+ttyd session. Still not the best, as xterm.js has tons of issues with long scrollbacks, but it's at least somewhat _usable_.
- simosmik 7mo ago
  Hello Galanwe, CloudCLI author here. This is a fair criticism and something we are actively working on. The older versions had real issues with websocket stability and the chat ui. We shipped a pretty big refactor yesterday that should fix most the disconnects and page rendering issues. Would be worth another look if you have a few minutes. If you hit anything else, feel free to reach out to me personally (email in my hn profile) or via the discord channel we have. Always useful hearing from people who actually tried it and ran want to make it better
  - Galanwe 7mo ago
    Hey, thanks for jumping in. So I did spend some time retrying it today, and while I can see some improvements, it is still not in a shape where I trust it enough to replace ttyd. Some feedbacks: - The UI is bloated with not-so-useful widgets which take a lot of space. On my S22 Ultra, arguably a screen on the larger side of the spectrum, around 60% of the screen real estate is used for non-chat purpose. If I start to enter text, that jumps to 90% of the screen for widgets, and can see barely a line or two of chat history while typing. Most of these widgets are options that you maybe change once in a while (thinking mode, model selection) but don't need to have all the time above the text input. Same for the "Processing / Stop generation" widget, it takes 20% of the screen. - The login flow is broken. I have to login two times in a row for it to work. Also if anything goes wrong during login, there is no error message and you're just not logged, and end up trying to login through the shell tab, which is painful. - I still have issues with answers appearing below the text input, effectively hiding the last lines of the answers. Much less than in the previous version, but it does still happen. Refreshing the page fixes it though, which is a win compared to before. - Sometimes my last message appears at the very bottom of the chat as if I retyped it. Refreshing the page make it disappear. - Unclear to me what the right hand side options do. I tried many of them and can't tell a difference.

ramraj07 7mo ago

Start in a tmux session and let it run ?