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The current gen SU7 is already available with an 830km CLTC range but doesn't actually get that range in real world driving. This is about 9% better, so you co

The current gen SU7 is already available with an 830km CLTC range but doesn't actually get that range in real world driving. This is about 9% better, so you could take the current real-world range and increase it by 9% and probably get a decent estimate for the normal driving condition range. You will not get 560 miles of range out of this vehicle. The typical use is probably closer to your initial worst case guess at around 350-400 miles if I had to guess. Worst case scenario would be even worse than that. The numbers are good, but they're not in a completely different league

dyauspitr 8mo ago
It is in a completely different league as soon as you get 250 miles+ in the worst case scenario. I have an EV and 300 miles per charge is amazing. No American companies offer this right now.
- trezm 8mo ago
  Rivian's R1* max battery offers an EPA over 400, anecdotal experience has taught me it's actually around 325-350 on the highway with heating/AC, but still.
xbar 8mo ago
They are in a completely different league when you account for the other full half of the story you missed: "The company claims 5C supercharging capability, with a 10% to 80% charge completing in about 11 minutes." Assume your worst case of 350 miles, 80% of that is 280 miles. Getting to 280 miles of no-exaggeration-real-world range in 11 minutes is actually game changing. An 11 minute break after each chunk of 280 real miles of continuous driving does not feel like an interruption on a road-trip. 33 minutes every 200 miles definitely does. 11 minutes once per week to cover 5 days of 30 real miles of each-way commute is a forgettable amount of time. The time/mile charge ratio is actually the story.
- Aurornis 8mo ago
  I‘be been following this space long enough to know that when you see this line: > The company claims You shouldn’t ignore that important detail. The company claims a lot of things. Let’s wait until we actually see what the production models do as measured in real tests.
  - xbar 8mo ago
    That is good advice. I think it was the right opening position.

dyauspitr 8mo ago

It is in a completely different league as soon as you get 250 miles+ in the worst case scenario. I have an EV and 300 miles per charge is amazing. No American companies offer this right now.

trezm 8mo ago
Rivian's R1* max battery offers an EPA over 400, anecdotal experience has taught me it's actually around 325-350 on the highway with heating/AC, but still.

xbar 8mo ago

They are in a completely different league when you account for the other full half of the story you missed: "The company claims 5C supercharging capability, with a 10% to 80% charge completing in about 11 minutes." Assume your worst case of 350 miles, 80% of that is 280 miles. Getting to 280 miles of no-exaggeration-real-world range in 11 minutes is actually game changing. An 11 minute break after each chunk of 280 real miles of continuous driving does not feel like an interruption on a road-trip. 33 minutes every 200 miles definitely does. 11 minutes once per week to cover 5 days of 30 real miles of each-way commute is a forgettable amount of time. The time/mile charge ratio is actually the story.

Aurornis 8mo ago
I‘be been following this space long enough to know that when you see this line: > The company claims You shouldn’t ignore that important detail. The company claims a lot of things. Let’s wait until we actually see what the production models do as measured in real tests.
- xbar 8mo ago
  That is good advice. I think it was the right opening position.