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This is a stupid article written for stupid people. Here's the probably original reporting: http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/7904696/Dotcom-trumpets-free-fibr

This is a stupid article written for stupid people. Here's the probably original reporting: http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/7904696/Dotcom-trumpets-free-fibre http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/7904696/Dotcom-trumpets-fr... with such quotes as: Morgan, who was chairman of Pacific Fibre, said: "I haven't talked to him [Dotcom] but I would be happy to have a chat. The only story here is Kim Dotcom is desperate for attention and whore journalists are desperate for pageviews.

llambda 14y ago
Do you think you could reframe that comment without the needless personal attacks on the writers and readers of the article in question? It truly is disappointing to read comments like this. The content [of your comment] isn't abjectly worthless, it's just wrapped in unnecessary hatefulness that honestly does nothing to further a high quality of discussion. Can't we do better here?
- benologist 14y ago
  This content is not just worthless it's the literary equivalent of Justin Bieber. It's manufactured fluff written for the lowest common denominator, and that's become us. I certainly agree we could do better here but I'm not sure letting this calibre of "journalism" and the people who lap it up slide is the solution. This content doesn't even fuel discussion. We see it almost every day under a different headline, all it does is trigger some genius to tell us how copying isn't stealing, copyright should be abolished and bla bla bla. It's digg content, and it's written to be agreed with not discussed.
  - llambda 14y ago
    > I'm not sure letting this calibre of "journalism" and the people who lap it up slide is the solution. So flag it and move on: if you must comment, you can do so sans ad hominem and still communicate your point. I don't understand why a complaint about quality should itself be a paragon of lowered quality?
    - pyre 14y ago
      When you're at the bottom, even a gain of a millimeter seems to largely improve your standing because all of sudden you're 'better than the other guy.' From a big picture view, that millimeter doesn't matter so much.
redthrowaway 14y ago
I'm getting tired of the predictability of "this article is bad and you should feel bad" being the top-rated comment for any submission on HN. Comments such as these are pseudo-deep: they're easy to write, and easy to agree with, without really adding anything to the discussion. It reminds me of Hitchens' quip that "George Bush is stupid" had become the joke that stupid people laugh at. And yes, I'm aware of the irony of this comment. I'm unsure of how I could phrase it differently, though.
- res0nat0r 14y ago
  Hopefully if the continuing top comments complaining about crap articles will result in less crap being upvoted?
- rdl 14y ago
  I think it's more fair to hate on blogspam summaries of original reporting, still, since there's a clear cure (link to the original source). It's one step away from "there was a posting about this same article with a different url, discussion is here" type postings.
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llambda 14y ago

Do you think you could reframe that comment without the needless personal attacks on the writers and readers of the article in question? It truly is disappointing to read comments like this. The content [of your comment] isn't abjectly worthless, it's just wrapped in unnecessary hatefulness that honestly does nothing to further a high quality of discussion. Can't we do better here?

benologist 14y ago
This content is not just worthless it's the literary equivalent of Justin Bieber. It's manufactured fluff written for the lowest common denominator, and that's become us. I certainly agree we could do better here but I'm not sure letting this calibre of "journalism" and the people who lap it up slide is the solution. This content doesn't even fuel discussion. We see it almost every day under a different headline, all it does is trigger some genius to tell us how copying isn't stealing, copyright should be abolished and bla bla bla. It's digg content, and it's written to be agreed with not discussed.
- llambda 14y ago
  > I'm not sure letting this calibre of "journalism" and the people who lap it up slide is the solution. So flag it and move on: if you must comment, you can do so sans ad hominem and still communicate your point. I don't understand why a complaint about quality should itself be a paragon of lowered quality?
  - pyre 14y ago
    When you're at the bottom, even a gain of a millimeter seems to largely improve your standing because all of sudden you're 'better than the other guy.' From a big picture view, that millimeter doesn't matter so much.

redthrowaway 14y ago

I'm getting tired of the predictability of "this article is bad and you should feel bad" being the top-rated comment for any submission on HN. Comments such as these are pseudo-deep: they're easy to write, and easy to agree with, without really adding anything to the discussion. It reminds me of Hitchens' quip that "George Bush is stupid" had become the joke that stupid people laugh at. And yes, I'm aware of the irony of this comment. I'm unsure of how I could phrase it differently, though.

res0nat0r 14y ago
Hopefully if the continuing top comments complaining about crap articles will result in less crap being upvoted?
rdl 14y ago
I think it's more fair to hate on blogspam summaries of original reporting, still, since there's a clear cure (link to the original source). It's one step away from "there was a posting about this same article with a different url, discussion is here" type postings.
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