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The Howtown channel had a video on this last year, 'One weird metric picks the world's "happiest country"': * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg1--c2r8HE https

The Howtown channel had a video on this last year, 'One weird metric picks the world's "happiest country"': * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg1--c2r8HE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg1--c2r8HE They link to their sources: * https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vFO-3Sq5-rorCWBIKwuR-SpknI_DJuWVgjm_cgdcKCw/edit?tab=t.0 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vFO-3Sq5-rorCWBIKwuR-Spk... Specifically the Cantril Self-Anchoring Striving Scale ("Cantril Ladder") is used: * https://www.sciotoanalysis.com/news/2024/2/9/what-is-cantrils-ladder https://www.sciotoanalysis.com/news/2024/2/9/what-is-cantril... * https://news.gallup.com/poll/122453/understanding-gallup-uses-cantril-scale.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/122453/understanding-gallup-use... It's been around since 1965, so it's presumably been studied a lot and the pros and cons of it explored in the literature.

emptysongglass 7mo ago
This is one of those things that just is not true, no matter what sort of evidence is presented, because actual humans can go walk outside their door and see it isn't. Denmark has ranked as one of the happiest countries for years running, but, Dane here, we hoover up antidepressants like it was our breakfast. There are also deep cultural factors at play that make Danes more likely to mask that everything is fine when it isn't. We have an extremely high incidence of cheating on our partners, which, surprise, comes from a talent for deception, both toward self and others, and we are extremely emotionally avoidant, which results in our nationally very high rate of alcohol consumption and alcoholism. These happiness indexes are a complete sham and don't observe the full spectrum that goes into how cultures present themselves versus lived reality.
- UncleMeat 7mo ago
  > we hoover up antidepressants like it was our breakfast Is somebody who uses antidepressants to successfully improve their mood not happy? The question is not "would you be happy if you were unmedicated?"

emptysongglass 7mo ago

This is one of those things that just is not true, no matter what sort of evidence is presented, because actual humans can go walk outside their door and see it isn't. Denmark has ranked as one of the happiest countries for years running, but, Dane here, we hoover up antidepressants like it was our breakfast. There are also deep cultural factors at play that make Danes more likely to mask that everything is fine when it isn't. We have an extremely high incidence of cheating on our partners, which, surprise, comes from a talent for deception, both toward self and others, and we are extremely emotionally avoidant, which results in our nationally very high rate of alcohol consumption and alcoholism. These happiness indexes are a complete sham and don't observe the full spectrum that goes into how cultures present themselves versus lived reality.

UncleMeat 7mo ago
> we hoover up antidepressants like it was our breakfast Is somebody who uses antidepressants to successfully improve their mood not happy? The question is not "would you be happy if you were unmedicated?"