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It could be just me, but every time I tried to do something I sat thinking that I am not the target audience for this thing. I don't like the UI, I hate not bei

It could be just me, but every time I tried to do something I sat thinking that I am not the target audience for this thing. I don't like the UI, I hate not being able to talk to the hardware the way I can on linux (uart took me way too long to get working), I am angry that I am not able to run kvm, I hate not being able to replace the desktop and fix bugs myself. That's what makes it terrible for me.

TheSkyHasEyes 7mo ago
MacOS IMHO is no longer a viable OS for people like us(who know what this website even is). MacOS26 along with Windows11 are enshittifying and in some ways it's glorious to see. I do feel bad for non-IT people though, Linux is daunting to them...I get it.
- marcyb5st 7mo ago
  With my setup (GhosTTY, tmux, nvim) I don't have any problems honestly. When working with UI stuff I use rectangle to get a bit of the tiling behavior I was used to on i3, but nowadays I need that less and les because of browsers adding split view within themselves. Battery is great and everything feels snappy even after the PC being powered on for weeks.
mikestew 7mo ago
Fair enough, thanks for clarifying your distaste for macOS. Sounds like any closed source OS just isn’t for you. :-)
commandersaki 7mo ago
So you're upset an operating system that is called macOS is not in fact Linux. Gotcha.
- himata4113 7mo ago
  pretty much, it's unix and I want it to be unix, but I get the worst parts of linux and windows combined.
  - sonofhans 7mo ago
    I see you. These folks trying to talk you into liking MacOS are missing the point. You’re being perfectly clear about not liking it, and why — it’s not built for you. And that sucks, ‘cause their hardware is top-notch. It’s true pain. Apple really is leaving everyone else years behind in making hardware. Yet they’ve never done what I would consider obvious geek-friendly things to MacOS. I’m sad about it too, and I wish the OS were better.
- arcfour 7mo ago
  Yeah, if it was Linux it might actually be usable! I'm not sure how Apple acolytes can say this stuff seriously what with the deluge of complaints and completely broken features and terrible UI their own kind have been posting about it recently. You can't accept that Apple could possibly do wrong?
  - mikestew 7mo ago
    what with the deluge of complaints and completely broken features and terrible UI their own kind have been posting about… Remind me which OS we were talking about again? Because it sounds like all of them. OS usage as a team sport is just dumb.
    - himata4113 7mo ago
      I agree linux is just as bad, but at least I can fix it! Especially now in the age of AI I have fixed 30-40 issues with KDE that were bothering me and now they're gone. The reason why I don't upstream is because.. it's AI and half the changes are very opinionated. However, my enjoyment and productivity went up a lot. My KDE is closer to hyprland than anything and I love it.
      - mikestew 7mo ago
        I agree linux is just as bad, but at least I can fix it! I for sure see the appeal. Even if macOS desktop were open source, though, I doubt I'd do much about my complaints. For my use cases, I don't want to turn OS maintenance into a hobby, and whatever complaints I might have aren't big enough to go to the trouble to begin with. Bespoke user land does have its temptations, though. Maybe I'll finally get off my butt and load up a distro on that old 2012 MBP that doesn't get macOS updates anymore.
        himata4113 7mo ago
        AI is a beast at figuring out the internals I picked up oh-my-pi from one of the posts on this site, it's cake compared to what it was even just a year ago.

TheSkyHasEyes 7mo ago

MacOS IMHO is no longer a viable OS for people like us(who know what this website even is). MacOS26 along with Windows11 are enshittifying and in some ways it's glorious to see. I do feel bad for non-IT people though, Linux is daunting to them...I get it.

marcyb5st 7mo ago
With my setup (GhosTTY, tmux, nvim) I don't have any problems honestly. When working with UI stuff I use rectangle to get a bit of the tiling behavior I was used to on i3, but nowadays I need that less and les because of browsers adding split view within themselves. Battery is great and everything feels snappy even after the PC being powered on for weeks.

mikestew 7mo ago

Fair enough, thanks for clarifying your distaste for macOS. Sounds like any closed source OS just isn’t for you. :-)

commandersaki 7mo ago

So you're upset an operating system that is called macOS is not in fact Linux. Gotcha.

himata4113 7mo ago
pretty much, it's unix and I want it to be unix, but I get the worst parts of linux and windows combined.
- sonofhans 7mo ago
  I see you. These folks trying to talk you into liking MacOS are missing the point. You’re being perfectly clear about not liking it, and why — it’s not built for you. And that sucks, ‘cause their hardware is top-notch. It’s true pain. Apple really is leaving everyone else years behind in making hardware. Yet they’ve never done what I would consider obvious geek-friendly things to MacOS. I’m sad about it too, and I wish the OS were better.
arcfour 7mo ago
Yeah, if it was Linux it might actually be usable! I'm not sure how Apple acolytes can say this stuff seriously what with the deluge of complaints and completely broken features and terrible UI their own kind have been posting about it recently. You can't accept that Apple could possibly do wrong?
- mikestew 7mo ago
  what with the deluge of complaints and completely broken features and terrible UI their own kind have been posting about… Remind me which OS we were talking about again? Because it sounds like all of them. OS usage as a team sport is just dumb.
  - himata4113 7mo ago
    I agree linux is just as bad, but at least I can fix it! Especially now in the age of AI I have fixed 30-40 issues with KDE that were bothering me and now they're gone. The reason why I don't upstream is because.. it's AI and half the changes are very opinionated. However, my enjoyment and productivity went up a lot. My KDE is closer to hyprland than anything and I love it.
    - mikestew 7mo ago
      I agree linux is just as bad, but at least I can fix it! I for sure see the appeal. Even if macOS desktop were open source, though, I doubt I'd do much about my complaints. For my use cases, I don't want to turn OS maintenance into a hobby, and whatever complaints I might have aren't big enough to go to the trouble to begin with. Bespoke user land does have its temptations, though. Maybe I'll finally get off my butt and load up a distro on that old 2012 MBP that doesn't get macOS updates anymore.
      - himata4113 7mo ago
        AI is a beast at figuring out the internals I picked up oh-my-pi from one of the posts on this site, it's cake compared to what it was even just a year ago.