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It gives me immeasurable delight seeing afroman at the top of HN. Love me some freedom, sweet soulful music, and pie in the face of bad cops. Dang/Tom, please

It gives me immeasurable delight seeing afroman at the top of HN. Love me some freedom, sweet soulful music, and pie in the face of bad cops. Dang/Tom, please don't downrank this. America needs this win.

smt88 7mo ago
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- radlad 7mo ago
  Not sure he's "big MAGA" but I assume this is where the idea stems from - https://www.newsweek.com/afroman-explains-his-new-song-hunter-got-high-1895392 https://www.newsweek.com/afroman-explains-his-new-song-hunte...
  - jollyllama 7mo ago
    It is interesting that his treatment is being cast in the light of racial politics rather than persecution of a political dissident.
- pstuart 7mo ago
  That's good to know. The second sentence you gave was superfluous because the first one told us that -- I add this not to dismiss your efforts but to highlight them.
- Y-bar 7mo ago
  I see he celebrated anti-ICE protests in some videos on his YouTube channel. Where does his MAGA support you claim come from?
  - watwut 7mo ago
    I mean, both him and Trump have similar approach to opponents or those who wronged them. In this case, the opponents are deeply unsympathetic to most, so it is harder to see. I do see how someone whose reaction to being wronged is "I fucked his wife doggy style" could be attracted to the Donald Trump personality.
    - Y-bar 7mo ago
      I’m not at all convinced, because that would mean N A S is a Trumper because: > “When these streets keep callin’, heard it when I was asleep/That Gay Z and C*ck-A-Fella Records wanted beef” JayZ responded in kind insinuating it back on N A S. And Drake is also a Trumpist because he told Chris Brown that he fu*ked Chris’s girl. Tupac also, for some reason: > ”… You claim to be a player, but I f*cked your wife/We bust on Bad Boys, n*g*as fu*ked for life.” 2Pac in hit-em-up: > "That's why I fuc*ed your bitch" Eminem: > "I f*cked your mother and made her my bitch," You know what? Maybe it’s a rapper thing and not an indication of MAGA alignment?
      - djohnston 7mo ago
        no! no! he said hunter biden! he said wrong! bad man! MAGA! NAzi!!!!!!!!!
  - Rebelgecko 7mo ago
    I think he tried to be the Libertarian presidential candidate and made a song about Hunter Biden, so people just assume he's full MAGA and doesn't deserve 1st amendment rights
- hedora 7mo ago
  He’s willing to publicly criticize government corruption and child abuse, so there’s no way MAGA would accept him. (Both these stances came up in the defamation lawsuit and in the music video.) When he ran for president in 2024, he registered as an independent, “citing inflation, the housing market, law enforcement corruption, and legalizing marijuana as key campaign issues”. Even if he is ultra right wing on secondary issues (I have no idea) those are all anti-MAGA or bipartisan stances. https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/664027-afroman-2024-presidential-campaign https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/664027-afroman-2024-presidentia... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroman
  - parineum 7mo ago
    > citing inflation, the housing market, law enforcement corruption, and legalizing marijuana as key campaign issues The first two of those issues were Trump issues in his campaign and Trump rescheduled marijuana to schedule 2.
    - flatline 7mo ago
      There was an EO, but that is not law. Cannabis is still schedule I last I checked. The order is to make it schedule III.
      - themaninthedark 7mo ago
        A president can not make a law, only sign them into existence. He can also direct enforcement or lessen it. As far as I understand, the Schedule of Cannabis is written into the US Code. So Congress would need to amend it. https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title21-section802&num=0&edition=prelim https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim...
        parineum 7mo ago
        It's under the purview of the executive branch to determine drug scheduling > The term "list I chemical" means a chemical specified by regulation of the Attorney General ... until otherwise specified by regulation of the Attorney General
- nazgulsenpai 7mo ago
  Even if this were true, are we really so far gone in the political discourse that we can't appreciate a win as Americans because of the perceived political orientation of the recipient? I think the answer is yes, but I still naively hold out hope that we can eventually move beyond this.
  - RIMR 7mo ago
    I can appreciate that this verdict is a win for freedom, while also finding the footnote that Afroman is not pro-freedom quite useful.
  - smt88 7mo ago
    I didn't say I don't appreciate a win. I was saying that Afroman isn't a crusader for freedom or anything of the sort. We can appreciate the win without glorifying the victim of the case beyond the scope of the case.
    - edm0nd 7mo ago
      > I was saying that Afroman isn't a crusader for freedom Sure he is, he literally just won this case as a crusader for freedom :)
- boca_honey 7mo ago
  Yes, it's unfortunate that this good thing happened to a person not aligned to my political worldview.
- deleted 7mo ago
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rtkwe 7mo ago
I think this all started with cake in the face of a cop not pie!
- jborden13 7mo ago
  Lemon pound cake you say?
no_shadowban 7mo ago
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jmyeet 7mo ago
I love the Afroman story so much. Everything about it. It does more to expose just how incompetent, entitled and corrupt the average cop really is, something I wish was better known. The cops who brought this suit are basically the biggest crybabies, are too dumb to realize it and too entitled to realize that others wouldn't see it that way. It's fantastic. Compare this to policing in Japan [1]: > Koban cops go to extraordinary lengths to learn their beats. They're required to regularly visit every business and household in their districts twice a year, ostensibly to hand out anti-crime flyers or ask about their security cameras. The owner of a coffee shop told Craft, "With Officer Sota, we can say what's on our mind. He's really like a neighbor. Instead of dialing emergency when we need help, we just call him." American cops are a gang, by and large. Cops have absolutely massive budgets, from small towns to big cities. Let's not forget Uvalde, where the police department budget was ~40% of the city budget and it resulted in 19 cops standing outside scared while one shooter kept shooting literal children for an hour. Because they were scared. [1]: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/walking-the-beat-in-japan-a-heaven-for-cops/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/walking-the-beat-in-japan-a-hea...
- StefanKarpinski 7mo ago
  > Let's not forget Uvalde, where the police department budget was ~40% of the city budget and it resulted in 19 cops standing outside scared while one shooter kept shooting literal children for an hour. Because they were scared. Not only did they not stop the shooter, but they actively prevented parents—who were willing to risk their lives—from intervening. They didn't just not help, they proactively ran interference for the shooter.
- therobots927 7mo ago
  Uvalde should’ve been the nail in the coffin for the thin blue liners. Turns out, not only do they not have a problem with cops murdering black people, they also have no problem with them standing by while their own kids are shot inside a school. Hell of a death cult this country has turned into.
  - solid_fuel 7mo ago
    Uvalde was the moment my hopes for the future of this country died. The parents there voted to reelect the same people who stood around and let a solitary madman murder their children just a little while later.
largbae 7mo ago
I wasn't gonna run from the cops...

smt88 7mo ago

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radlad 7mo ago
Not sure he's "big MAGA" but I assume this is where the idea stems from - https://www.newsweek.com/afroman-explains-his-new-song-hunter-got-high-1895392 https://www.newsweek.com/afroman-explains-his-new-song-hunte...
- jollyllama 7mo ago
  It is interesting that his treatment is being cast in the light of racial politics rather than persecution of a political dissident.
pstuart 7mo ago
That's good to know. The second sentence you gave was superfluous because the first one told us that -- I add this not to dismiss your efforts but to highlight them.
Y-bar 7mo ago
I see he celebrated anti-ICE protests in some videos on his YouTube channel. Where does his MAGA support you claim come from?
- watwut 7mo ago
  I mean, both him and Trump have similar approach to opponents or those who wronged them. In this case, the opponents are deeply unsympathetic to most, so it is harder to see. I do see how someone whose reaction to being wronged is "I fucked his wife doggy style" could be attracted to the Donald Trump personality.
  - Y-bar 7mo ago
    I’m not at all convinced, because that would mean N A S is a Trumper because: > “When these streets keep callin’, heard it when I was asleep/That Gay Z and C*ck-A-Fella Records wanted beef” JayZ responded in kind insinuating it back on N A S. And Drake is also a Trumpist because he told Chris Brown that he fu*ked Chris’s girl. Tupac also, for some reason: > ”… You claim to be a player, but I f*cked your wife/We bust on Bad Boys, n*g*as fu*ked for life.” 2Pac in hit-em-up: > "That's why I fuc*ed your bitch" Eminem: > "I f*cked your mother and made her my bitch," You know what? Maybe it’s a rapper thing and not an indication of MAGA alignment?
    - djohnston 7mo ago
      no! no! he said hunter biden! he said wrong! bad man! MAGA! NAzi!!!!!!!!!
- Rebelgecko 7mo ago
  I think he tried to be the Libertarian presidential candidate and made a song about Hunter Biden, so people just assume he's full MAGA and doesn't deserve 1st amendment rights
hedora 7mo ago
He’s willing to publicly criticize government corruption and child abuse, so there’s no way MAGA would accept him. (Both these stances came up in the defamation lawsuit and in the music video.) When he ran for president in 2024, he registered as an independent, “citing inflation, the housing market, law enforcement corruption, and legalizing marijuana as key campaign issues”. Even if he is ultra right wing on secondary issues (I have no idea) those are all anti-MAGA or bipartisan stances. https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/664027-afroman-2024-presidential-campaign https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/664027-afroman-2024-presidentia... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroman
- parineum 7mo ago
  > citing inflation, the housing market, law enforcement corruption, and legalizing marijuana as key campaign issues The first two of those issues were Trump issues in his campaign and Trump rescheduled marijuana to schedule 2.
  - flatline 7mo ago
    There was an EO, but that is not law. Cannabis is still schedule I last I checked. The order is to make it schedule III.
    - themaninthedark 7mo ago
      A president can not make a law, only sign them into existence. He can also direct enforcement or lessen it. As far as I understand, the Schedule of Cannabis is written into the US Code. So Congress would need to amend it. https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title21-section802&num=0&edition=prelim https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim...
      - parineum 7mo ago
        It's under the purview of the executive branch to determine drug scheduling > The term "list I chemical" means a chemical specified by regulation of the Attorney General ... until otherwise specified by regulation of the Attorney General
nazgulsenpai 7mo ago
Even if this were true, are we really so far gone in the political discourse that we can't appreciate a win as Americans because of the perceived political orientation of the recipient? I think the answer is yes, but I still naively hold out hope that we can eventually move beyond this.
- RIMR 7mo ago
  I can appreciate that this verdict is a win for freedom, while also finding the footnote that Afroman is not pro-freedom quite useful.
- smt88 7mo ago
  I didn't say I don't appreciate a win. I was saying that Afroman isn't a crusader for freedom or anything of the sort. We can appreciate the win without glorifying the victim of the case beyond the scope of the case.
  - edm0nd 7mo ago
    > I was saying that Afroman isn't a crusader for freedom Sure he is, he literally just won this case as a crusader for freedom :)
boca_honey 7mo ago
Yes, it's unfortunate that this good thing happened to a person not aligned to my political worldview.
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rtkwe 7mo ago

I think this all started with cake in the face of a cop not pie!

jborden13 7mo ago
Lemon pound cake you say?

no_shadowban 7mo ago

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jmyeet 7mo ago

I love the Afroman story so much. Everything about it. It does more to expose just how incompetent, entitled and corrupt the average cop really is, something I wish was better known. The cops who brought this suit are basically the biggest crybabies, are too dumb to realize it and too entitled to realize that others wouldn't see it that way. It's fantastic. Compare this to policing in Japan [1]: > Koban cops go to extraordinary lengths to learn their beats. They're required to regularly visit every business and household in their districts twice a year, ostensibly to hand out anti-crime flyers or ask about their security cameras. The owner of a coffee shop told Craft, "With Officer Sota, we can say what's on our mind. He's really like a neighbor. Instead of dialing emergency when we need help, we just call him." American cops are a gang, by and large. Cops have absolutely massive budgets, from small towns to big cities. Let's not forget Uvalde, where the police department budget was ~40% of the city budget and it resulted in 19 cops standing outside scared while one shooter kept shooting literal children for an hour. Because they were scared. [1]: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/walking-the-beat-in-japan-a-heaven-for-cops/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/walking-the-beat-in-japan-a-hea...

StefanKarpinski 7mo ago
> Let's not forget Uvalde, where the police department budget was ~40% of the city budget and it resulted in 19 cops standing outside scared while one shooter kept shooting literal children for an hour. Because they were scared. Not only did they not stop the shooter, but they actively prevented parents—who were willing to risk their lives—from intervening. They didn't just not help, they proactively ran interference for the shooter.
therobots927 7mo ago
Uvalde should’ve been the nail in the coffin for the thin blue liners. Turns out, not only do they not have a problem with cops murdering black people, they also have no problem with them standing by while their own kids are shot inside a school. Hell of a death cult this country has turned into.
- solid_fuel 7mo ago
  Uvalde was the moment my hopes for the future of this country died. The parents there voted to reelect the same people who stood around and let a solitary madman murder their children just a little while later.

largbae 7mo ago

I wasn't gonna run from the cops...