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Covid, Russia and the axis of US+Israel has done massive damage to the European psyche. Covid showed us how economically dependent we are to major manufacturin

Covid, Russia and the axis of US+Israel has done massive damage to the European psyche. Covid showed us how economically dependent we are to major manufacturing countries like China. Paper money != ability to manufacture. Russia broke any notion of peace that can be funded by cheap energy. It will always be a tool used against you, and Russia will not change. The axis of US+Israel is breaking down the international system of laws and diplomacy. It’s going to be in a state even worse than the heights of the Cold War. Nukes are now a more favored instrument of peace compared to diplomacy. Is it worth fighting for what we had, or should we fight for something better? Who knows. (Edit: I don’t think non-Europeans can appreciate the whiplash suffered in our populations. In the span of around two years, European leaders drew red lines on political, economical and cultural decoupling from Russia based on human rights and the rule of law, then had to explain why preventable atrocities happening to civilians in the Mideast is not against our values and laws concerning human rights.)

velancogito 7mo ago
I could be wrong, but I've experienced the opposite. Seeing Putin and Trump openly undermine and threaten the EU forced countries to address the situation and take action. It's encouraging. I'm looking at this situation from Hungary tho, where Russian influence began 10–16 years ago. It seems Hungary has a chance to get rid of Orbán, and the rest of Europe is also taking measures finally. It's nice. The war in Ukraine is literally at the EU's border. It could be destabilizing in many ways. It's not just about moral reasons. By the way, I see similarities between Putin and Trump as they both started wars against big countries without thinking ahead more than three days. It's one more reason to strengthen the EU.
- jacquesm 7mo ago
  It is pretty scary how many Hungarians are willing to jump back under the Russian boot. Much strength to you in the coming election.
heraldgeezer 7mo ago
Damage? It has strengthened us. Nordics and the Baltics are very pro Ukraine, we have a common enemy now to focus on. Poland has stepped up too militarlity. Sweden where I am has seen a HUGE uplift in military spend, and the companies like SAAB and Bofors (heheh) Germany is the big loser as they had cheap Russian energy and shut down their nuclear plants. Where in Europe are you from exactly? EU overall is pro Ukraine except for Hungary... In summary, what are you on about? And post your passport. Oh, and Israel is our ally. I am sick of EU being so pro Hamas and pro Iran. Thankfully our government cut down on grants to the MENA and increased to Ukraine!
- tremon 7mo ago
  Israel is our ally Israel is Europe's shame, not ally. The UK, France and the US share full responsibility for the creation of the state of Israel, and every day that Europe refuses to denounce Israel, its culpability for Israel's actions grows.
  - heraldgeezer 7mo ago
    Okay good that you are honest, you do not what Israel to exist at all? Well, the west disagrees with you. What country in Europe are you in and who do you vote for?
  - ta20240528 7mo ago
    Oh stop being so self-loathing: Israel was created by a mandate from the League of Nations. So, most of the planet (1) (1) Well, excluding Ethiopia because they still thought it was cool to have slaves.
    - heraldgeezer 7mo ago
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    - tremon 7mo ago
      Funny that you should mention that mandate. A "mandate territory" is simply a transfer of colonial rule from a loser of World War I to a victor of the war. In no way should the term "mandate" here be construed as an agreement that was supported by broad consensus. A little context: The League of Nations was established by the Treaty of Versailles at the end of WW I. That treaty was fully drafted by Britain, France, the United States, and Italy; the first members of the League included all allied victors of the war, their (former) colonies, and the colonies of the losers of the war, which became the mandates you refer to. Many countries that were neutral in the WW I were extended an invite to join the League, but they were not present during negotiations in Versailles. So, contrary to what you suggest, the League of Nations never voted on the establishment of these "mandates", as they were simply the result of the World War I victors divvying up the spoils of war -- and for Palestine specifically, the so-called "Principal Allied Powers" explicitly reserved those powers for themselves without any input from the rest of the League [0]: > The San Remo Resolution passed on 25 April 1920 determined the allocation of Class "A" League of Nations mandates for the administration of three then-undefined Ottoman territories in the Middle East: "Palestine", "Syria" and "Mesopotamia". The boundaries of the three territories were "to be determined [at a later date] by the Principal Allied Powers" So no, "most of the planet" did not weigh in on the establishment of the Palestinian territory; that burden of responsibility squarely falls back on Britain, France, Italy, Japan, and the US. Also, your claim that Israel was created by the League Of Nations is an anachronism. The League of Nations was disbanded on 18 April 1946 (subsumed into the United Nations), and Israel did not become a nation state until 14 May 1948. Before that date, the territory was known as the Mandate of Palestine. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Remo_conference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Remo_conference

velancogito 7mo ago

I could be wrong, but I've experienced the opposite. Seeing Putin and Trump openly undermine and threaten the EU forced countries to address the situation and take action. It's encouraging. I'm looking at this situation from Hungary tho, where Russian influence began 10–16 years ago. It seems Hungary has a chance to get rid of Orbán, and the rest of Europe is also taking measures finally. It's nice. The war in Ukraine is literally at the EU's border. It could be destabilizing in many ways. It's not just about moral reasons. By the way, I see similarities between Putin and Trump as they both started wars against big countries without thinking ahead more than three days. It's one more reason to strengthen the EU.

jacquesm 7mo ago
It is pretty scary how many Hungarians are willing to jump back under the Russian boot. Much strength to you in the coming election.

heraldgeezer 7mo ago

Damage? It has strengthened us. Nordics and the Baltics are very pro Ukraine, we have a common enemy now to focus on. Poland has stepped up too militarlity. Sweden where I am has seen a HUGE uplift in military spend, and the companies like SAAB and Bofors (heheh) Germany is the big loser as they had cheap Russian energy and shut down their nuclear plants. Where in Europe are you from exactly? EU overall is pro Ukraine except for Hungary... In summary, what are you on about? And post your passport. Oh, and Israel is our ally. I am sick of EU being so pro Hamas and pro Iran. Thankfully our government cut down on grants to the MENA and increased to Ukraine!

tremon 7mo ago
Israel is our ally Israel is Europe's shame, not ally. The UK, France and the US share full responsibility for the creation of the state of Israel, and every day that Europe refuses to denounce Israel, its culpability for Israel's actions grows.
- heraldgeezer 7mo ago
  Okay good that you are honest, you do not what Israel to exist at all? Well, the west disagrees with you. What country in Europe are you in and who do you vote for?
- ta20240528 7mo ago
  Oh stop being so self-loathing: Israel was created by a mandate from the League of Nations. So, most of the planet (1) (1) Well, excluding Ethiopia because they still thought it was cool to have slaves.
  - heraldgeezer 7mo ago
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  - tremon 7mo ago
    Funny that you should mention that mandate. A "mandate territory" is simply a transfer of colonial rule from a loser of World War I to a victor of the war. In no way should the term "mandate" here be construed as an agreement that was supported by broad consensus. A little context: The League of Nations was established by the Treaty of Versailles at the end of WW I. That treaty was fully drafted by Britain, France, the United States, and Italy; the first members of the League included all allied victors of the war, their (former) colonies, and the colonies of the losers of the war, which became the mandates you refer to. Many countries that were neutral in the WW I were extended an invite to join the League, but they were not present during negotiations in Versailles. So, contrary to what you suggest, the League of Nations never voted on the establishment of these "mandates", as they were simply the result of the World War I victors divvying up the spoils of war -- and for Palestine specifically, the so-called "Principal Allied Powers" explicitly reserved those powers for themselves without any input from the rest of the League [0]: > The San Remo Resolution passed on 25 April 1920 determined the allocation of Class "A" League of Nations mandates for the administration of three then-undefined Ottoman territories in the Middle East: "Palestine", "Syria" and "Mesopotamia". The boundaries of the three territories were "to be determined [at a later date] by the Principal Allied Powers" So no, "most of the planet" did not weigh in on the establishment of the Palestinian territory; that burden of responsibility squarely falls back on Britain, France, Italy, Japan, and the US. Also, your claim that Israel was created by the League Of Nations is an anachronism. The League of Nations was disbanded on 18 April 1946 (subsumed into the United Nations), and Israel did not become a nation state until 14 May 1948. Before that date, the territory was known as the Mandate of Palestine. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Remo_conference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Remo_conference