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Seems weird. China is definitely falling behind. India is not.
by steinvakt2 7mo ago
Seems weird. China is definitely falling behind. India is not.
- petterroea 7mo agoThey are pretty happy with having superiority on high tech manufacturing and robotics. You basically cannot manufacture something without using China - even if you try. I don't think they consider the TSMC EUV monopoly a long term threat. Doing good on AI as well, you bet the OSS chinese models causing stock panic in the US makes them laugh. On the topic of manufacturing outside China, the YouTuber "Smarter Every day" (Destin Sandlin) has a series on manufacturing and feels strongly about manufacturing having moved out of the country. As an experiment he tried to manufacture something without China, but was unable to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZTGwcHQfLY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZTGwcHQfLY
- jacquesm 7mo agoI have some friends who are doing things 'China free' and it is possible but it comes at a very substantial premium.
- petterroea 7mo agoI think the most interesting takeaway from this video in question is that he tried to buy material from an Indian seller, who promised it was Indian. When the box arrived, it had the name of a Chinese factory on it.
- aprentic 7mo agoAnd he's just making a grill scrubber. I just ordered a bunch of drone parts. The majority of those part were only available from China.
- jacquesm 7mo agoIf you want: motors, ESCs, flight controllers and radios those can be sourced from outside of China, and competitively priced too (if you're in Europe, outside you'd still have to add taxes).
- petterroea 7mo agoYeah tbf I wouldn't underestimate Eastern Europe. The drone industry there must be booming nowadays, pun not intended.
- jacquesm 7mo agoIt's everywhere. And 'China free' is a real motto here.
- aprentic 7mo agoI can't install a motto in my drone. None of the alternatives will allow me to put a physical drone part in my hand with any degree of reliability.
- aprentic 7mo agoHow? As near as I can tell, the vast majority of the parts are made in China. When I look at the few alternatives, they're full of Chinese circuitry. If I look at circuit components, they're all made of Chinese raw materials. Both Ukraine and Russia are planning to deploy (and use up) several million drones over the next year. Iran just joined them as a major procurer. Where are all the US and EU component factories?