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Okay. You have sensible escape prevention. Now this tool spreads. You help everyone get it set up. Someone hacks the site, injects a prompt lying about some ev

by Kye 7mo ago

Okay. You have sensible escape prevention. Now this tool spreads. You help everyone get it set up. Someone hacks the site, injects a prompt lying about some event, maybe Drag Queen Story Hour in a place with lots of people enraged about it. Now there's chaos and confusion. Corrections chase the spread of misinformation.

BeetleB 7mo ago
> Now this tool spreads. You help everyone get it set up. Someone hacks the site You sound like my dad in the 90's, when it came to modems. Same tool. Good uses. Bad uses. The bad doesn't negate the good (c.f. Bittorrent).
- bigfishrunning 7mo ago
  I could make that same argument about giving my 9 year old a chainsaw and telling her to cut some wood In the best case, some wood gets cut. There are many many worse things that can happen But hey, same tool. Good uses. Bad uses.
  - defrost 7mo ago
    The trick is to give them a tree pruning chain saw, one intended for climbing tree loppers to use one handed - it's an ideal weight for nine years old to use two handed. And to supervise. As tested on my children and grand children. Also, if you happen to have a furnace with a large pot of molten glass, five year olds are capable (given a stand) of making marbles from the furnance and will do that for hours if you can spare the time to let them.
  - BeetleB 7mo ago
    Exactly. Would you go around telling normal people that chainsaws are bad, because of how harmful they are in the hands of 9 year olds?
nickthegreek 7mo ago
Giving plausible examples could further your case. But at some point you have got to realize that other people have actually thought about these things are are willing to do this. Imagine going up to everyone riding a motorcycle and telling them about the inherent dangers of their activity and to stop. It is obvious that the OP understands risk, has taken several strong steps to harden their system and isn’t worried about the school calendar getting hacked making an event that they would get notified about and that destroying their community somehow. I don’t even understand openclaws place. The exact same events would unfold without the ai in there at all.

by Kye 7mo ago

BeetleB 7mo ago

> Now this tool spreads. You help everyone get it set up. Someone hacks the site You sound like my dad in the 90's, when it came to modems. Same tool. Good uses. Bad uses. The bad doesn't negate the good (c.f. Bittorrent).

bigfishrunning 7mo ago
I could make that same argument about giving my 9 year old a chainsaw and telling her to cut some wood In the best case, some wood gets cut. There are many many worse things that can happen But hey, same tool. Good uses. Bad uses.
- defrost 7mo ago
  The trick is to give them a tree pruning chain saw, one intended for climbing tree loppers to use one handed - it's an ideal weight for nine years old to use two handed. And to supervise. As tested on my children and grand children. Also, if you happen to have a furnace with a large pot of molten glass, five year olds are capable (given a stand) of making marbles from the furnance and will do that for hours if you can spare the time to let them.
- BeetleB 7mo ago
  Exactly. Would you go around telling normal people that chainsaws are bad, because of how harmful they are in the hands of 9 year olds?

nickthegreek 7mo ago

Giving plausible examples could further your case. But at some point you have got to realize that other people have actually thought about these things are are willing to do this. Imagine going up to everyone riding a motorcycle and telling them about the inherent dangers of their activity and to stop. It is obvious that the OP understands risk, has taken several strong steps to harden their system and isn’t worried about the school calendar getting hacked making an event that they would get notified about and that destroying their community somehow. I don’t even understand openclaws place. The exact same events would unfold without the ai in there at all.