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Gotta say, that I feel kind of sad for the people that feel the need for these claw things. Are they so busy with their lives that they need an assistant, or d

Gotta say, that I feel kind of sad for the people that feel the need for these claw things. Are they so busy with their lives that they need an assistant, or do they waste their lives speaking to it like it is a human, and then doomscrolling on some addictive site instead of attending to their lives in the real world?

rsoto2 7mo ago
It is sad, psychosis from exec-up has trickled down so people really want these tools to work yet these tools are so bad that people in this thread are recommending you create a second email so your openclaw can suggest events to you without being able to delete them. It's like having to hire a second maid to watch your maid that steals constantly instead of vacuuming yourself in 10 mins.
- stavros 7mo ago
  Imagine having a worldview so skewed that you'd rather reconcile it by assuming thousands of people are insane than questioning whether you're wrong about something.
  - __s 7mo ago
    A lot more than thousands of people are insane, by a few orders of magnitude
    - stavros 7mo ago
      "More than thousands" is still "thousands".
sailfast 7mo ago
It’s not a need - it’s a fun new thing - fun to see what’s possible and how it helps. OpenClaw is not easy to set up or user friendly for most (BlueBubbles and Claw had an annoying bug recently) - but the way I have seen it work well requires an up front time investment and then interest compounds RAPIDLY to help manage things and be more productive. My guess is maybe you’ve never had an assistant or tried a Claw instance? I’ve never had a human assistant but man I’ve had folks that took silly things off my plate and it’s worth it.
- pmdr 7mo ago
  LLMs have earned their place in many jobs, but I struggle to see claws as more than a rather expensive waste of time and tokens. Downsides are gargantuan, effects of dead internet theory will be ubiquitous.
  - sailfast 7mo ago
    Maybe? But I guess I won't find out until I try it a bit. For now, I'm not posting anything - just managing some calendars and inboxes and task lists and saving me some data entry. Not sure how that makes downsides gargantuan, or contributes to the internet dying. (Though obviously the bot will get worse as the internet continues to die if that's what it's using as a source)
    - pmdr 7mo ago
      > or contributes to the internet dying. People will set these things to run wild on all platforms. Talking to real humans will be a luxury.
aprdm 7mo ago
Do you feel sad for people who use a computer or a cellphone or file taxes online instead of paper ? How is this any different ? I use those tools to make my life easier/faster

rsoto2 7mo ago

It is sad, psychosis from exec-up has trickled down so people really want these tools to work yet these tools are so bad that people in this thread are recommending you create a second email so your openclaw can suggest events to you without being able to delete them. It's like having to hire a second maid to watch your maid that steals constantly instead of vacuuming yourself in 10 mins.

stavros 7mo ago
Imagine having a worldview so skewed that you'd rather reconcile it by assuming thousands of people are insane than questioning whether you're wrong about something.
- __s 7mo ago
  A lot more than thousands of people are insane, by a few orders of magnitude
  - stavros 7mo ago
    "More than thousands" is still "thousands".

sailfast 7mo ago

It’s not a need - it’s a fun new thing - fun to see what’s possible and how it helps. OpenClaw is not easy to set up or user friendly for most (BlueBubbles and Claw had an annoying bug recently) - but the way I have seen it work well requires an up front time investment and then interest compounds RAPIDLY to help manage things and be more productive. My guess is maybe you’ve never had an assistant or tried a Claw instance? I’ve never had a human assistant but man I’ve had folks that took silly things off my plate and it’s worth it.

pmdr 7mo ago
LLMs have earned their place in many jobs, but I struggle to see claws as more than a rather expensive waste of time and tokens. Downsides are gargantuan, effects of dead internet theory will be ubiquitous.
- sailfast 7mo ago
  Maybe? But I guess I won't find out until I try it a bit. For now, I'm not posting anything - just managing some calendars and inboxes and task lists and saving me some data entry. Not sure how that makes downsides gargantuan, or contributes to the internet dying. (Though obviously the bot will get worse as the internet continues to die if that's what it's using as a source)
  - pmdr 7mo ago
    > or contributes to the internet dying. People will set these things to run wild on all platforms. Talking to real humans will be a luxury.

aprdm 7mo ago

Do you feel sad for people who use a computer or a cellphone or file taxes online instead of paper ? How is this any different ? I use those tools to make my life easier/faster