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I feel like the word "protocol", is just abused like it is a glorified marketing term. Kind of like how the word "hacker" was abused in everything else that had
by neya 7mo ago
I feel like the word "protocol", is just abused like it is a glorified marketing term. Kind of like how the word "hacker" was abused in everything else that had nothing to do with hacking.
MCP was just a glorified way of tool calling but generated so much hype (and it eventually died down). Now we have MPP. Which again - could have just been another tool call exposed to the agent.
Imagine you hire someone who claimed to have invented a new protocol and you're thinking of something like TCP or UDP, but all they share is just a markdown file.
- ai-inquisitor 7mo agoThe good ol' folks at Stripe's collaborators Tempo Labs tried to make an RFC-style description page for MPP: https://paymentauth.org/ https://paymentauth.org/ (full doc on IETF draft page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ryan-httpauth-payment/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ryan-httpauth-payment...) I almost was going to point it out as evidence there was thought put into it. Nope, it's flimsy and AI generated. Also, it contains provisions for scamming customers: > 403 indicates the payment succeeded but access is denied by policy No, it doesn't explain how to refund payments for customers you deny access to.
- Xirdus 7mo agoThis one is even worse IMO > Servers MAY return 402 when: > * Offering optional paid features or premium content This implies that a successful GET request to a resource that user already does have access to, might still return 402 instead of 200. This makes 402 basically unworkable.
- pertsix 7mo agoAn RFC is a request for comments, contributions. Are you open to contributing to this RFC?
- pear01 7mo agoWas it AI generated? If so, should I just delegate my AI to do so?
- john_strinlai 7mo agothat doesnt sound nearly as fun as getting upvotes, if im honest
- darkwater 7mo agoWill they get a slice of the earnings in return by Stripe?
- Xirdus 7mo agoI always assumed contributing to RFCs is about as easy as contributing to C++, which I always assumed is virtually impossible without a billion dollars or a billion citations of your academic papers.
- brendan_j_ryan 7mo ago[dead]
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- NetOpWibby 7mo agoI recently redesigned my blog to look like a modern RFC and I'm loving the way they've decided to render tables in their plain text, definitely gonna steal that. On topic though, Stripe is trying to make themselves the Visa/Mastercard of crypto. They're in position to do so and it seems like Coinbase is their other half. I don't trust or like it though.
- ahnick 7mo agoThe best Visa/Mastercard of crypto already exists and is called Flexa. (https://flexa.co/payments#pricing https://flexa.co/payments#pricing)
- NetOpWibby 7mo agoOh wow, I never heard of this. I'm currently working on something similar with the same 1% rate, haha! WELP
- treyd 7mo agoI think this started when "web3" cryptocurrency projects started using the term to pretend that something which isn't much more than a service that uses a blockchain network to move money around was actually somehow "decentralized" and that that made it more trustworthy.
- devmor 7mo agoI've been thinking this, but never really put it into words. Every time I see one of these I think "You are just describing an API".
- notatoad 7mo ago"protocol" is just an agreement to communicate in a standardized way. this is a protocol. a tool call exposed to the agent is a protocol - the act of "exposing it to the agent" means you're defining a protocol. there's nothing wrong with calling this a protocol. the problem is in hyping it up as though every protocol is going to be world-changing on the level of TCP.
- rdevilla 7mo agoI mean, I have had people unironically declare they had written compilers or exploits, which were actually just javascript or golang wrappers around the real payload, or all of the irrelevant lexer/parser/typechecker/optimizer/assembler bits.. I'm sure they were just as trivial, especially today with LLMs..