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> You’re the one who brought up FDR, my dude VOA was established by FDR? > the General Welfare clause. the general welfare clause is pretty clearly in the he
by dnautics 7mo ago
> You’re the one who brought up FDR, my dude
VOA was established by FDR?
> the General Welfare clause.
the general welfare clause is pretty clearly in the header of article 1 section 8, with the specific enumerated welfare provisions following it.
anything outside of those provisions (e.g. making a non-apporpotioned income tax, making a law that makes alcohol illegal, why not just have those be authorized as "general welfare"?) needs a Constitutional amendment otherwise its just congress creating a power for itself out of whole cloth.
look at this point the government pretty clearly breaks every other part of the Constitution except for the pomp and circumstances around the oath of office, so we know where the real priorities lie.
- wat10000 7mo ago> VOA was established by FDR? Are you serious? You mentioned FDR by name. > You could equally make the argument "it took three generations to unpick and fix the FDR bullshit". You made the comparison. I made my own comparison. Then you accused me of "whataboutism" for following your lead. I don't have the energy for this bullshit.
- dnautics 7mo agoread carefully. "it took three generations to unpick and fix the FDR bullshit [establishing VOA]".
- wat10000 7mo agoAh, so "the FDR bullshit" was specifically about VOA. That was not clear. I thought it was a reference to New Deal policies more broadly. Write more carefully. Actually, in your reply in the other subtree, you added "(among other things)" so it appears I understood it correctly the first time, and it was a reference to New Deal policies more broadly.
- dnautics 7mo agoyes and the comment i originally responded to talks about Trump/DOGE in a broad sense, which is also more than just VOA. actually doge is unwinding quite a bit of FDR bullshit it turns out so my analogy is a nice mirror.