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I remember this being talked about >20 years ago when the idea came up and they had to get clearance from the Egyptian gov which were not keen on the idea. If t

I remember this being talked about >20 years ago when the idea came up and they had to get clearance from the Egyptian gov which were not keen on the idea. If this is indeed the same "hidden passage" ... Gee .. 20 years to get clearance.

BurningFrog 7mo ago
Some people think the Egyptian government aims to control archeology so it doesn't find things conflicting with their view of history. The alternate view is that it's mostly just hopelessly bureaucratic.
- rerdavies 7mo ago
  The other alternate view is that it's run by an incompetent narcissist (Zahi Hawass, head of the Egyptian Antiquities Department that controls who can do what in the pyramids). Hawass was not particularly supportive of the original ScanPyramids Project results. 'On November 2, 2017, the Egyptologist Zahi Hawass told the New York Times: "They found nothing...This paper offers nothing to Egyptology. Zero."' -- wikipedia. The result from the ScanPyramids Project that got the most coverage was a strong suggestion that there is a major void (the ScanPyramids Big Void) above the Grand Gallery leading to the King's Chamber (which has not yet been confirmed). They also found weaker evidence that suggested there was a tunnel on the north face behind the chevron blocks. The existence of the ScanPyramids North Face Corridor (referred to in the literature as the SP-NFC) was confirmed in 2023, by inserting an endoscope into a crack between two of the chevron blocks. Zahi Hawass did his best to take credit for the discovery. Nobody took him seriously.
- seanhunter 7mo ago
  An alternative alternative view is that the pyramids are >4000 years old and 20 years is nothing in that context, so waiting a few years for technology to improve to the extent that they can be confident that the archeologists can do an investigation in a less invasive way that doesn't cause damage is time well spent.
  - rerdavies 7mo ago
    Fibre-optic endoscopes have been around since the mid 1970s. So technology that is much older than the muon scanning techniques that the ScanPyramids project used to discover the North Face Corridor. The real problem, I think, was that Hawass went on record to reject the ScanPyramids results for reasons known only to Zahi Hawass, despite widespread scientific acceptance of the ScanPyramids papers.
- 6510 7mo ago
  That underground city near Derinkuyu in Turkey is suppose to have 18 levels, the first 8 are open to the public, the other 10 have been waiting for permission since 1963.
mentalgear 7mo ago
Did a quick search with perplexity, and it seems this is the other shaft from the 90s: https://www.crystalinks.com/GantenbrinksDoor.html https://www.crystalinks.com/GantenbrinksDoor.html .
jklinger410 7mo ago
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- wood_spirit 7mo ago
  This seems a pretty big claim! What truths do people believe that are wrong, and what do you believe the truth to be? And why would they protect a generation and from what and why? And will they not protect the generation who are coming up now, still learning the false truth because the real truth hasn’t been revealed yet?
  - jklinger410 7mo ago
    > What truths do people believe that are wrong, and what do you believe the truth to be? I'm not certain. > And why would they protect a generation and from what and why? It's very common to delay information to minimize its impact. I suppose for "national security." My intuition is that it is a matter of country pride, and cultural "ownership" over a world wonder. > And will they not protect the generation who are coming up now, still learning the false truth because the real truth hasn’t been revealed yet? No, that's how delaying information works. They'll all be dead by the time it comes out anyway.
- technothrasher 7mo ago
  Are we talking chappa'ai and Goa'uld, or do you have something more down to Earth in mind here with your conspiratorial hinting?
  - jklinger410 7mo ago
    All you have to do is look at how the Egyptian government handles the site to draw this conclusion. I don't care to comment on what they may be hiding.
    - gosub100 7mo ago
      You are using the fact that government officials are inept, inefficient, and corrupt to imply there is some big secret that somehow nobody else knows? Do you claim this absence of evidence is actually evidence of some fantastical claim?
gosub100 7mo ago
It makes sense, to drum up as much interest and mystique as possible to for marketing purposes.

BurningFrog 7mo ago

Some people think the Egyptian government aims to control archeology so it doesn't find things conflicting with their view of history. The alternate view is that it's mostly just hopelessly bureaucratic.

rerdavies 7mo ago
The other alternate view is that it's run by an incompetent narcissist (Zahi Hawass, head of the Egyptian Antiquities Department that controls who can do what in the pyramids). Hawass was not particularly supportive of the original ScanPyramids Project results. 'On November 2, 2017, the Egyptologist Zahi Hawass told the New York Times: "They found nothing...This paper offers nothing to Egyptology. Zero."' -- wikipedia. The result from the ScanPyramids Project that got the most coverage was a strong suggestion that there is a major void (the ScanPyramids Big Void) above the Grand Gallery leading to the King's Chamber (which has not yet been confirmed). They also found weaker evidence that suggested there was a tunnel on the north face behind the chevron blocks. The existence of the ScanPyramids North Face Corridor (referred to in the literature as the SP-NFC) was confirmed in 2023, by inserting an endoscope into a crack between two of the chevron blocks. Zahi Hawass did his best to take credit for the discovery. Nobody took him seriously.
seanhunter 7mo ago
An alternative alternative view is that the pyramids are >4000 years old and 20 years is nothing in that context, so waiting a few years for technology to improve to the extent that they can be confident that the archeologists can do an investigation in a less invasive way that doesn't cause damage is time well spent.
- rerdavies 7mo ago
  Fibre-optic endoscopes have been around since the mid 1970s. So technology that is much older than the muon scanning techniques that the ScanPyramids project used to discover the North Face Corridor. The real problem, I think, was that Hawass went on record to reject the ScanPyramids results for reasons known only to Zahi Hawass, despite widespread scientific acceptance of the ScanPyramids papers.
6510 7mo ago
That underground city near Derinkuyu in Turkey is suppose to have 18 levels, the first 8 are open to the public, the other 10 have been waiting for permission since 1963.

mentalgear 7mo ago

Did a quick search with perplexity, and it seems this is the other shaft from the 90s: https://www.crystalinks.com/GantenbrinksDoor.html https://www.crystalinks.com/GantenbrinksDoor.html .

jklinger410 7mo ago

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wood_spirit 7mo ago
This seems a pretty big claim! What truths do people believe that are wrong, and what do you believe the truth to be? And why would they protect a generation and from what and why? And will they not protect the generation who are coming up now, still learning the false truth because the real truth hasn’t been revealed yet?
- jklinger410 7mo ago
  > What truths do people believe that are wrong, and what do you believe the truth to be? I'm not certain. > And why would they protect a generation and from what and why? It's very common to delay information to minimize its impact. I suppose for "national security." My intuition is that it is a matter of country pride, and cultural "ownership" over a world wonder. > And will they not protect the generation who are coming up now, still learning the false truth because the real truth hasn’t been revealed yet? No, that's how delaying information works. They'll all be dead by the time it comes out anyway.
technothrasher 7mo ago
Are we talking chappa'ai and Goa'uld, or do you have something more down to Earth in mind here with your conspiratorial hinting?
- jklinger410 7mo ago
  All you have to do is look at how the Egyptian government handles the site to draw this conclusion. I don't care to comment on what they may be hiding.
  - gosub100 7mo ago
    You are using the fact that government officials are inept, inefficient, and corrupt to imply there is some big secret that somehow nobody else knows? Do you claim this absence of evidence is actually evidence of some fantastical claim?

gosub100 7mo ago

It makes sense, to drum up as much interest and mystique as possible to for marketing purposes.