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Is this the best Grok alternative?

• spiderfarmer 7mo ago
  Any model is.
  • grosswait 7mo ago
    This sounds like an ideology based reply. Grok is underrated and I think has a better chance of long term success than most. The current growth strategy means (for me) their chat harness is not up to par for serious work. Their API is consistently among the most used on OpenRouter. While I can’t vouch for it myself, I think this is a decent proxy for capability. You can definitely see glimmers of greatness in their chat interface, it just feels like the system prompts are focused on something that doesn’t interest me.
    • butILoveLife 7mo ago
      Grok is not SOTA, but its so obviously better than Mistral. Mistral is just some European patriotism or something. Grok is nice for asking morally gray questions. ChatGPT will lie in these cases.
      • Duwensatzaj 7mo ago
        What lies have you seen? ChatGPT is the most censored one, but I’ve only seen rejections, not lies. My other complaint is that ChatGPT ends every response with a teaser to ask more questions.
        • butILoveLife 7mo ago
          Ask game theory questions with real humans where its best to defect.
      • spiderfarmer 7mo ago
        > Grok is nice for asking morally gray questions. ChatGPT will lie in these cases. Are you really that oblivious to the painfully cringy manipulation tactics by the man who partied at Epstein's island? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/nov/21/elon-musk-grok-ai-bias-ranks-richest-man-fittest-smartest https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/nov/21/elon-musk...
        • butILoveLife 7mo ago
          [dead]
        • grosswait 7mo ago
          Suspicion confirmed
          • spiderfarmer 7mo ago
            Define ideology and its relevance here.