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I was told by a car dealer service guy that if the touch screen went on the blink, the car would be totaled. (Since replacing it cost more than the car was wort

I was told by a car dealer service guy that if the touch screen went on the blink, the car would be totaled. (Since replacing it cost more than the car was worth.) I've often thought the touch screen should be replaced by a socket that accepts an iPad, and put the auto custom software on that. Why reinvent the hardware?

drnick1 8mo ago
> I've often thought the touch screen should be replaced by a socket that accepts an iPad, The last thing I need is Apple spying on me when I am driving.
- WalterBright 8mo ago
  Your touchscreen is already spying on you.
- rTX5CMRXIfFG 8mo ago
  Funny that you say that because of all the big tech companies, Apple has the best track record at fighting for consumer privacy. And you certainly cannot say that for any of the car makers that currently have an EV lineup.
  - kakacik 8mo ago
    Apple has a terrible reputation if you don't cherrypick news. Most of their 'security' stuff is PR work. Its just that rest of competition is even worse.
  - nottorp 8mo ago
    > Apple has the best track record Best track record compared to Google on phones and Microsoft on PCs. Anyone can be better than that.
- happymellon 8mo ago
  The principal is there though. The power of a tablet is far more than is required for an infotainment system. Make a standard, like we used to have for radios and regulate everything to expose all the controls via a standard connection. Standard parts for replacing and sizes for fitting. The only way we can have nice things is by regulating. I don't want proprietary tyres either.
- Nevermark 8mo ago
  Do you have a car now? A phone? If you are wearing pants you are being tracked right now!
  - darkwater 8mo ago
    So why all this hysteria about cars tracking us if we already carrying phones with us that has been tracking us for almost 2 decades now? I'm being a bit sarcastic but also not. I understand the sentiment of people here but also the 2 standards applied.
    - trashb 8mo ago
      Because you can choose to leave your phone at home and are travel everywhere by car if you don't want to be tracked. But you can't leave your car at home and travel anywhere. It is true that we don't need cars sending telemetry to track us since there is a conveniently placed identification number on the front and rear of the car, the number plate (used by government), but this is physically broadcasted and that limits its reach. So why should the manufacturer of my car have access (and the right to sell) a lot of my personal data like location, weight, age indefinitely just because I own a product manufactured by them? It is an unnecessary overreach on very sensitive data and I can't really opt out (if buying a modern car) since all manufacturers are doing it. Yes I also carried a phone everywhere the last 20years, but that doesn't make the tracking right (also on phone I think we should be tracked less).
      - darkwater 8mo ago
        I understand and agree in general, but the root issue is in the laws and what's permitted to companies. Giving your data to car manufacturers and 3rd parties should be mandated to be disabled by default by law and only enabled with proper informed consent.
    - everdrive 8mo ago
      Because you can leave your phone at home? Because I hate my phone and I'm not happy about that either?
IrishTechie 8mo ago
€1500 or so for Tesla to replace the screen, cheaper in many other cars.
fetassdd 8mo ago
That’s nonsense. Tesla screen for example is $1800 Australian + GST. Cheap? No. But not overly expensive all things considered.
- nottorp 8mo ago
  How much does it cost to replace a broken physical a/c button?
  - olyjohn 8mo ago
    And if you can't find said factory button available anywhere, you can usually replace it with any cheap-ass generic button or switch.
  - plqbfbv 8mo ago
    Asked Claude for cutting down research time: - the button is integrated in the A/C dashboard? Everything needs to be replaced. Part cost: 250-600€ depending on car model and brand - some dashboards can be stupid annoying to disassemble (Claude mentions VW, BMW, ...), 2-3h work at the dealer: 240-540€ - diagnostic fee they'll charge before they touch anything: 80-150€ Total cost: 550-1300€ "...With a premium German brand and a complex dash, breaking €1,000 for what is functionally a single button is entirely realistic..." Yes, you can save money if you go used/aftermarket and DIY, but the same applies to Tesla. Tesla: - 1300€ touchscreen (e.g. for my old M3 2019): https://epc.tesla.com/it-IT/catalogs/34f82bd6-90fb-417c-8a06-7a1658e64dbf/categories/b4577f51-a29c-4bd8-b2c5-3995e24e9ffb/subcategories/bd3adfb3-e487-4abe-af36-d7ba7bd09351/systemGroups/c09b9210-56c8-4277-bb90-3ca975b2adea https://epc.tesla.com/it-IT/catalogs/34f82bd6-90fb-417c-8a06... - probably 45m tops disassembly and reassembly: https://service.tesla.com/docs/ModelY/ServiceManual/en-us/GUID-DCB313B3-9E2A-4431-8869-18E7181900BD.html https://service.tesla.com/docs/ModelY/ServiceManual/en-us/GU... Lots of used parts available, since they have the same parts for 10+y now.

drnick1 8mo ago

> I've often thought the touch screen should be replaced by a socket that accepts an iPad, The last thing I need is Apple spying on me when I am driving.

WalterBright 8mo ago
Your touchscreen is already spying on you.
rTX5CMRXIfFG 8mo ago
Funny that you say that because of all the big tech companies, Apple has the best track record at fighting for consumer privacy. And you certainly cannot say that for any of the car makers that currently have an EV lineup.
- kakacik 8mo ago
  Apple has a terrible reputation if you don't cherrypick news. Most of their 'security' stuff is PR work. Its just that rest of competition is even worse.
- nottorp 8mo ago
  > Apple has the best track record Best track record compared to Google on phones and Microsoft on PCs. Anyone can be better than that.
happymellon 8mo ago
The principal is there though. The power of a tablet is far more than is required for an infotainment system. Make a standard, like we used to have for radios and regulate everything to expose all the controls via a standard connection. Standard parts for replacing and sizes for fitting. The only way we can have nice things is by regulating. I don't want proprietary tyres either.
Nevermark 8mo ago
Do you have a car now? A phone? If you are wearing pants you are being tracked right now!
- darkwater 8mo ago
  So why all this hysteria about cars tracking us if we already carrying phones with us that has been tracking us for almost 2 decades now? I'm being a bit sarcastic but also not. I understand the sentiment of people here but also the 2 standards applied.
  - trashb 8mo ago
    Because you can choose to leave your phone at home and are travel everywhere by car if you don't want to be tracked. But you can't leave your car at home and travel anywhere. It is true that we don't need cars sending telemetry to track us since there is a conveniently placed identification number on the front and rear of the car, the number plate (used by government), but this is physically broadcasted and that limits its reach. So why should the manufacturer of my car have access (and the right to sell) a lot of my personal data like location, weight, age indefinitely just because I own a product manufactured by them? It is an unnecessary overreach on very sensitive data and I can't really opt out (if buying a modern car) since all manufacturers are doing it. Yes I also carried a phone everywhere the last 20years, but that doesn't make the tracking right (also on phone I think we should be tracked less).
    - darkwater 8mo ago
      I understand and agree in general, but the root issue is in the laws and what's permitted to companies. Giving your data to car manufacturers and 3rd parties should be mandated to be disabled by default by law and only enabled with proper informed consent.
  - everdrive 8mo ago
    Because you can leave your phone at home? Because I hate my phone and I'm not happy about that either?

IrishTechie 8mo ago

€1500 or so for Tesla to replace the screen, cheaper in many other cars.

fetassdd 8mo ago

That’s nonsense. Tesla screen for example is $1800 Australian + GST. Cheap? No. But not overly expensive all things considered.

nottorp 8mo ago
How much does it cost to replace a broken physical a/c button?
- olyjohn 8mo ago
  And if you can't find said factory button available anywhere, you can usually replace it with any cheap-ass generic button or switch.
- plqbfbv 8mo ago
  Asked Claude for cutting down research time: - the button is integrated in the A/C dashboard? Everything needs to be replaced. Part cost: 250-600€ depending on car model and brand - some dashboards can be stupid annoying to disassemble (Claude mentions VW, BMW, ...), 2-3h work at the dealer: 240-540€ - diagnostic fee they'll charge before they touch anything: 80-150€ Total cost: 550-1300€ "...With a premium German brand and a complex dash, breaking €1,000 for what is functionally a single button is entirely realistic..." Yes, you can save money if you go used/aftermarket and DIY, but the same applies to Tesla. Tesla: - 1300€ touchscreen (e.g. for my old M3 2019): https://epc.tesla.com/it-IT/catalogs/34f82bd6-90fb-417c-8a06-7a1658e64dbf/categories/b4577f51-a29c-4bd8-b2c5-3995e24e9ffb/subcategories/bd3adfb3-e487-4abe-af36-d7ba7bd09351/systemGroups/c09b9210-56c8-4277-bb90-3ca975b2adea https://epc.tesla.com/it-IT/catalogs/34f82bd6-90fb-417c-8a06... - probably 45m tops disassembly and reassembly: https://service.tesla.com/docs/ModelY/ServiceManual/en-us/GUID-DCB313B3-9E2A-4431-8869-18E7181900BD.html https://service.tesla.com/docs/ModelY/ServiceManual/en-us/GU... Lots of used parts available, since they have the same parts for 10+y now.