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I'm impressed that you're daily driving what must be a 30+ year old vehicle. What model? Most enthusiasts have another vehicle to keep the miles down and use wh

I'm impressed that you're daily driving what must be a 30+ year old vehicle. What model? Most enthusiasts have another vehicle to keep the miles down and use when the antique needs maintenance.

defrost 7mo ago
1990 AU Ford Falcon family here - still in near showroom condition (well, looks good but has a scratch and a minor ding) with ~ 600,000 km on the clock. > when the antique needs maintenance. You're talking about all the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, et al cars, tracks and tractors that litter our district? Yeah - there are a lot of them in this part of the world. All the farmers love the bleeding edge gear and are getting into AgBot boom sprayers, etc - but they still can't shake a love of keeping the really old stuff going - pimped up rat-trucks abound and we rebuilt an old Alice Chambers tractor ourselves two years back.
- AlotOfReading 7mo ago
  "Antique" is a term for any vehicle that meets the local criteria for antique vehicle registration [0], usually older than 25-30 years. Your falcon is in the same club as those older vehicles now. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antique_vehicle_registration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antique_vehicle_registration
  - defrost 7mo ago
    > Your falcon is in the same club as those older vehicles now. No, it isn't - you missed: In Australia, the rules for antique vehicle registration vary between states. I am well aware that the vehicle I own and drive is normally registered as a normal vehicle and is not treated as an antique. What we do have, here in W.Australia, is a limited usage "Classics" rego for vehicles 30 years or older. Reduced rates for enforced (but how??) reduced usage: The owners must also be a financial member of a Department of Transport (DoT) approved motoring club. a 1991 Holden Commodore would drop from $867.55 to $171.30 per year Vehicles in the scheme are only able to be driven on public roads for a maximum of 90 days per annum. Classics (not antiques!) are beloved cars kept road ready but only occassionally used on public roads. * https://www.wa.gov.au/government/media-statements/Cook-Labor-Government/Rolling-30-year-old-vehicle-eligibility-part-of-%242m-Concessions-for-Classics-expansion-20240421 https://www.wa.gov.au/government/media-statements/Cook-Labor... * https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/licensing/concessions/classics https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/licensing/concessions/classi...
jtbayly 7mo ago
I own and drive a 2015 and a 2017. Each of them undoubtedly has software onboard. But I've never had a vehicle that had a recall for software reasons. So now you imply I'm (driving) an antique because I haven't turned over every aspect of driving to software, which is the only reason I can imagine needing constant OTA updates to address recalls. I mean, if you enjoy having daily alerts about needing to update your vehicle, random restarts, random bricking after updates, changes to the vehicle without your consent by third parties, etc. then I guess good on you. I still don't feel like I'm missing anything.

I'm impressed that you're daily driving what must be a 30+ year old vehicle. What model? Most enthusiasts have another vehicle to keep the miles down and use when the antique needs maintenance.

defrost 7mo ago

1990 AU Ford Falcon family here - still in near showroom condition (well, looks good but has a scratch and a minor ding) with ~ 600,000 km on the clock. > when the antique needs maintenance. You're talking about all the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, et al cars, tracks and tractors that litter our district? Yeah - there are a lot of them in this part of the world. All the farmers love the bleeding edge gear and are getting into AgBot boom sprayers, etc - but they still can't shake a love of keeping the really old stuff going - pimped up rat-trucks abound and we rebuilt an old Alice Chambers tractor ourselves two years back.

AlotOfReading 7mo ago
"Antique" is a term for any vehicle that meets the local criteria for antique vehicle registration [0], usually older than 25-30 years. Your falcon is in the same club as those older vehicles now. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antique_vehicle_registration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antique_vehicle_registration
- defrost 7mo ago
  > Your falcon is in the same club as those older vehicles now. No, it isn't - you missed: In Australia, the rules for antique vehicle registration vary between states. I am well aware that the vehicle I own and drive is normally registered as a normal vehicle and is not treated as an antique. What we do have, here in W.Australia, is a limited usage "Classics" rego for vehicles 30 years or older. Reduced rates for enforced (but how??) reduced usage: The owners must also be a financial member of a Department of Transport (DoT) approved motoring club. a 1991 Holden Commodore would drop from $867.55 to $171.30 per year Vehicles in the scheme are only able to be driven on public roads for a maximum of 90 days per annum. Classics (not antiques!) are beloved cars kept road ready but only occassionally used on public roads. * https://www.wa.gov.au/government/media-statements/Cook-Labor-Government/Rolling-30-year-old-vehicle-eligibility-part-of-%242m-Concessions-for-Classics-expansion-20240421 https://www.wa.gov.au/government/media-statements/Cook-Labor... * https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/licensing/concessions/classics https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/licensing/concessions/classi...

jtbayly 7mo ago

I own and drive a 2015 and a 2017. Each of them undoubtedly has software onboard. But I've never had a vehicle that had a recall for software reasons. So now you imply I'm (driving) an antique because I haven't turned over every aspect of driving to software, which is the only reason I can imagine needing constant OTA updates to address recalls. I mean, if you enjoy having daily alerts about needing to update your vehicle, random restarts, random bricking after updates, changes to the vehicle without your consent by third parties, etc. then I guess good on you. I still don't feel like I'm missing anything.