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Most of the profits come from rich countries. And even then especially the more expensive cars. (Personally I am fine driving a 10 year old shit box because fo

Most of the profits come from rich countries. And even then especially the more expensive cars. (Personally I am fine driving a 10 year old shit box because for me it is just a means of going from A to B and rather spend my money on other things)

jacquesm 7mo ago
My daily driver is approaching the ripe old age of 30, my main reason is a lack of software.
- speedgoose 7mo ago
  I’m what part of the world do you live to have a carbureted car from the late 90s?
  - jacquesm 7mo ago
    Netherlands. And fuel injection has been a thing since the 1930s for Diesel and the 1950's for vehicles. Yes, it has an ECU and ooh, gollies there is software in that. But it's completely invisible from an interaction point of view, there are no screens, all the buttons just do what they are told, there are no 'upgrades', no bugs, interfaces, restarts and attempts to kill me through 'assistance'.
    - speedgoose 7mo ago
      I understand the appeal. Do you use paper maps too or you have a smartphone on the dashboard ? That would be a bit cheating.
      - jacquesm 7mo ago
        I know where I'm going :)
      - antonvs 7mo ago
        It’s interesting to see how people who grew up with smartphones think. It’s entirely possible to get around without smartphones or paper maps. There are road signs, written directions, verbal directions. The main time I used to use a paper map was driving long distance trips in a foreign country.
        cozzyd 7mo ago
        Yeah I wonder how they get around on a bike...
        _carbyau_ 7mo ago
        Really? Sounds like you are a possible customer... can I interest you in a handlebar mount for your phone? https://www.quadlockcase.com.au/products/bike-mount https://www.quadlockcase.com.au/products/bike-mount
        cozzyd 7mo ago
        I have one, but I haven't used it since I got a smart watch (I mostly used it to track my speed). I actually really dislike navigation apps, since they tend to take you on strange routes that maybe are slightly shorter? To be fair, I haven't owned a car in 15 years, so I rarely drive.
        speedgoose 7mo ago
        If I don’t know the area and it’s not trivial, I use a map on my phone or my watch.
  - selimthegrim 7mo ago
    I think Pakistan they are still kicking around.
- bojan 7mo ago
  Are you doing the maintenance yourself? I guess at some point the yearly maintenance costs exceed the value of the car itself.
  - pge 7mo ago
    Not the OP but have a 20-year-old car. The relevant calculation is not cost of annual repair v value of car, but rather annual cost vs annual cost of a new car. Even if you amortize the upfront cost of a new car over 20 years, the increased insurance cost and (depending on where you live) property taxes plus some annual maintenance, at least for me, is substantially more expensive than annual maintenance on my current car.
    - jacquesm 7mo ago
      Yes, precisely. The 2018 Mercedes I had before this one was a lot more expensive to keep rolling. And super unsafe.
  - jacquesm 7mo ago
    I did a from-the-ground-up rebuild (including the engine) just after buying it. That cost an arm and a leg but all in (including the original car) it still came to ~half of what a new one would cost. Anything that had been 'improved' on it was brought back to stock. It's been super reliable, I've had it since jan 2020, put a considerable number of kms on it and it hasn't let me down (so far :) ). As for doing the maintenance myself, I don't have experience with this kind of car at all, I've worked a lot on classic Mini's, Citroens (2CV and DS) and Austin Maxi. But never anything like this so I'm more than happy to let someone else earn a buck on it. But it's been pretty cheap to run so far, fuel, oil, regular service and once a control arm that got bent out of shape. Compared to a new vehicle I'm considerably better off.
    - bojan 7mo ago
      The car of Theseus. Glad it's working for you! I hope you get many, many kms out of it!
  - 7mo ago
- alliao 7mo ago
  damn it missed the whole suicidal airbag scandal too!

jacquesm 7mo ago

My daily driver is approaching the ripe old age of 30, my main reason is a lack of software.

speedgoose 7mo ago
I’m what part of the world do you live to have a carbureted car from the late 90s?
- jacquesm 7mo ago
  Netherlands. And fuel injection has been a thing since the 1930s for Diesel and the 1950's for vehicles. Yes, it has an ECU and ooh, gollies there is software in that. But it's completely invisible from an interaction point of view, there are no screens, all the buttons just do what they are told, there are no 'upgrades', no bugs, interfaces, restarts and attempts to kill me through 'assistance'.
  - speedgoose 7mo ago
    I understand the appeal. Do you use paper maps too or you have a smartphone on the dashboard ? That would be a bit cheating.
    - jacquesm 7mo ago
      I know where I'm going :)
    - antonvs 7mo ago
      It’s interesting to see how people who grew up with smartphones think. It’s entirely possible to get around without smartphones or paper maps. There are road signs, written directions, verbal directions. The main time I used to use a paper map was driving long distance trips in a foreign country.
      - cozzyd 7mo ago
        Yeah I wonder how they get around on a bike...
        _carbyau_ 7mo ago
        Really? Sounds like you are a possible customer... can I interest you in a handlebar mount for your phone? https://www.quadlockcase.com.au/products/bike-mount https://www.quadlockcase.com.au/products/bike-mount
        cozzyd 7mo ago
        I have one, but I haven't used it since I got a smart watch (I mostly used it to track my speed). I actually really dislike navigation apps, since they tend to take you on strange routes that maybe are slightly shorter? To be fair, I haven't owned a car in 15 years, so I rarely drive.
        speedgoose 7mo ago
        If I don’t know the area and it’s not trivial, I use a map on my phone or my watch.
- selimthegrim 7mo ago
  I think Pakistan they are still kicking around.
bojan 7mo ago
Are you doing the maintenance yourself? I guess at some point the yearly maintenance costs exceed the value of the car itself.
- pge 7mo ago
  Not the OP but have a 20-year-old car. The relevant calculation is not cost of annual repair v value of car, but rather annual cost vs annual cost of a new car. Even if you amortize the upfront cost of a new car over 20 years, the increased insurance cost and (depending on where you live) property taxes plus some annual maintenance, at least for me, is substantially more expensive than annual maintenance on my current car.
  - jacquesm 7mo ago
    Yes, precisely. The 2018 Mercedes I had before this one was a lot more expensive to keep rolling. And super unsafe.
- jacquesm 7mo ago
  I did a from-the-ground-up rebuild (including the engine) just after buying it. That cost an arm and a leg but all in (including the original car) it still came to ~half of what a new one would cost. Anything that had been 'improved' on it was brought back to stock. It's been super reliable, I've had it since jan 2020, put a considerable number of kms on it and it hasn't let me down (so far :) ). As for doing the maintenance myself, I don't have experience with this kind of car at all, I've worked a lot on classic Mini's, Citroens (2CV and DS) and Austin Maxi. But never anything like this so I'm more than happy to let someone else earn a buck on it. But it's been pretty cheap to run so far, fuel, oil, regular service and once a control arm that got bent out of shape. Compared to a new vehicle I'm considerably better off.
  - bojan 7mo ago
    The car of Theseus. Glad it's working for you! I hope you get many, many kms out of it!
- 7mo ago
alliao 7mo ago
damn it missed the whole suicidal airbag scandal too!