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"Make the drug less good" likely isn't the answer. Nor is banning it. What caused Gen Z to drink less than millenials? Maybe Gen Z has the answer.

by cj 7mo ago

fakedang 7mo ago
Make it legal and expensive?
SirFatty 7mo ago
yeah, it's called "smoking weed".
- observationist 7mo ago
  Technology, culture, legalization of pot, adtech, covid, there are a metric ton of factors that all had significant impact on both decreasing socialization and reduction in drinking. And lowering the birth rates, and the number of healthy relationships, healthy friendships, etc. I'm for legalizing all drugs, regulating the sale, ensuring quality and purity, and educating the public. Cognitive liberty is sacred - but the dip in drinking has a whole lot of causes. A healthier society would be more social and get out and drink more, I think.
- GuB-42 7mo ago
  Millennials love their weed, party drugs too, it took over Gen X drinking in some way. But I find Zoomers to be rather tame in terms of drinking, smoking, drugs, unsafe sex, etc... Few of the traditional vices, really.
barbazoo 7mo ago
You're only allowed to drink as an adult. We're talking about letting those companies rot our brains in those first 18 years.
- XorNot 7mo ago
  In my experience the 60+ demographic have had far more damage done.
  - autoexec 7mo ago
    We just haven't seen what 60 year old ipad kids look like yet. It's not going to be pretty
    - pjc50 7mo ago
      We can see what Trump is like, as an 80 year old radicalized by Twitter with an army at his command.
  - Rapzid 7mo ago
    Just as they were settling into middle age far-right propaganda, conspiracy, and hate "entertainment" escaped AM radio and flooded cable news and social media. They never stood a chance.
jqbd 7mo ago
Decades of science communication and real life examples of knowing (of) alcohol addicts
- input_sh 7mo ago
  I'd wager how expensive it has gotten plus a year or two of lockdowns which lead to a whole generation of people not going out to get wasted as soon as they're legally allowed to had way more effect. Oh, and weed being increasingly legal to consume.
  - asdff 7mo ago
    I also noticed a trend that happened at my old college and a number of others that I've never seen anyone write about: the great buyout of the old college area slumlords. All the dive bars where you could black out off $10-20 I drunk at in college are gone. They all faced the wrecking ball, and were replaced in the past 10-15 years with apartments over targets and cvs and family friendly restaurants. A huge concerted effort to buy up these properties in piecemeal then destroy entire blocks at a time. I have no clue where kids at my college go to drink now. I have little interest in going back either as an alumnus as they destroyed all the places of my memories.
- aerodexis 7mo ago
  Real life experience with alcoholics would at-best be constant over time, or be diminishing (since gen Z drinks less). Also seems like the science on whether science communication actual changes behavior doesn't point towards it being much of a cause here.
darth_avocado 7mo ago
Gen Z drinks less because alcohol isn’t enough of a fix and hard drugs are way cheaper. The answer isn’t what you’re looking for.
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slopinthebag 7mo ago
Inflation, mostly. And a lot of us lack social skills so they don't have many friends, thus no reason to go out and get drunk. But like, when a pint is $12 and mixed drinks are $15+ sobriety starts looking more appealing. Source: Am gen Z.
dehrmann 7mo ago
> What caused Gen Z to drink less than millenials? Social media addiction?
- pixelmelt 7mo ago
  As one of said generation, I would chalk it up to instant communication creating innumerable shallow remote relationships that significantly replace time spent with others in person.
bdangubic 7mo ago
Gen Z never touch grass, you need to first leave the house before drinking comes up.
linhns 7mo ago
> What caused Gen Z to drink less than millenials? Money.

"Make the drug less good" likely isn't the answer. Nor is banning it. What caused Gen Z to drink less than millenials? Maybe Gen Z has the answer.

by cj 7mo ago

"Make the drug less good" likely isn't the answer. Nor is banning it. What caused Gen Z to drink less than millenials? Maybe Gen Z has the answer.

fakedang 7mo ago

Make it legal and expensive?

SirFatty 7mo ago

yeah, it's called "smoking weed".

observationist 7mo ago
Technology, culture, legalization of pot, adtech, covid, there are a metric ton of factors that all had significant impact on both decreasing socialization and reduction in drinking. And lowering the birth rates, and the number of healthy relationships, healthy friendships, etc. I'm for legalizing all drugs, regulating the sale, ensuring quality and purity, and educating the public. Cognitive liberty is sacred - but the dip in drinking has a whole lot of causes. A healthier society would be more social and get out and drink more, I think.
GuB-42 7mo ago
Millennials love their weed, party drugs too, it took over Gen X drinking in some way. But I find Zoomers to be rather tame in terms of drinking, smoking, drugs, unsafe sex, etc... Few of the traditional vices, really.

barbazoo 7mo ago

You're only allowed to drink as an adult. We're talking about letting those companies rot our brains in those first 18 years.

XorNot 7mo ago
In my experience the 60+ demographic have had far more damage done.
- autoexec 7mo ago
  We just haven't seen what 60 year old ipad kids look like yet. It's not going to be pretty
  - pjc50 7mo ago
    We can see what Trump is like, as an 80 year old radicalized by Twitter with an army at his command.
- Rapzid 7mo ago
  Just as they were settling into middle age far-right propaganda, conspiracy, and hate "entertainment" escaped AM radio and flooded cable news and social media. They never stood a chance.

jqbd 7mo ago

Decades of science communication and real life examples of knowing (of) alcohol addicts

input_sh 7mo ago
I'd wager how expensive it has gotten plus a year or two of lockdowns which lead to a whole generation of people not going out to get wasted as soon as they're legally allowed to had way more effect. Oh, and weed being increasingly legal to consume.
- asdff 7mo ago
  I also noticed a trend that happened at my old college and a number of others that I've never seen anyone write about: the great buyout of the old college area slumlords. All the dive bars where you could black out off $10-20 I drunk at in college are gone. They all faced the wrecking ball, and were replaced in the past 10-15 years with apartments over targets and cvs and family friendly restaurants. A huge concerted effort to buy up these properties in piecemeal then destroy entire blocks at a time. I have no clue where kids at my college go to drink now. I have little interest in going back either as an alumnus as they destroyed all the places of my memories.
aerodexis 7mo ago
Real life experience with alcoholics would at-best be constant over time, or be diminishing (since gen Z drinks less). Also seems like the science on whether science communication actual changes behavior doesn't point towards it being much of a cause here.

darth_avocado 7mo ago

Gen Z drinks less because alcohol isn’t enough of a fix and hard drugs are way cheaper. The answer isn’t what you’re looking for.

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slopinthebag 7mo ago

Inflation, mostly. And a lot of us lack social skills so they don't have many friends, thus no reason to go out and get drunk. But like, when a pint is $12 and mixed drinks are $15+ sobriety starts looking more appealing. Source: Am gen Z.

dehrmann 7mo ago

> What caused Gen Z to drink less than millenials? Social media addiction?

pixelmelt 7mo ago
As one of said generation, I would chalk it up to instant communication creating innumerable shallow remote relationships that significantly replace time spent with others in person.

bdangubic 7mo ago

Gen Z never touch grass, you need to first leave the house before drinking comes up.

linhns 7mo ago

> What caused Gen Z to drink less than millenials? Money.