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You are 100% correct but they started clamping down on people using Dev mode strictly for emulators and homebrew. So here we are.
by philistine 7mo ago
You are 100% correct but they started clamping down on people using Dev mode strictly for emulators and homebrew. So here we are.
- pjmlp 7mo agoThis is what killed Linux support on PS as well, Sony was disappointed with what was being done with PS2Linux, instead of indie titles. Hence why PS3 Other OS no longer did hardware acceleration.
- beAbU 7mo agoThe PS3 was incredible value dollar-to-flop, given that it was sold at a loss. This resulted in universities and other research institutes buying them en masse to create supercomputer clusters. Naturally buying thousands of consoles but not a single game puts sony in a difficult position. Although I think it's sad the hardware got locked down in later revisions, I fully understand why they did it.
- mschild 7mo agoThe US Department of Defense went quite a bit further. They created the Condor Cluster in 2010 which was comprised of 1760 PS3s. At the time it was placed 33rd worldwide for a supercomputer. https://phys.org/news/2010-12-air-playstation-3s-supercomputer.html https://phys.org/news/2010-12-air-playstation-3s-supercomput...
- extraduder_ire 7mo agoAt the time, entire PS3s were cheaper than what it cost to get the CPU from IBM.
- genewitch 7mo agoat some point it was claimed that the reason sony removed the ability to run linux was because, literally, Saddam Hussein (maybe not) was using them to pilot jets or somesuch.
- b00ty4breakfast 7mo agoI haven't looked, but I am pretty sure that Saddam was dead before the ps3 launched. At the very least, his 2003/2004 ouster was before the ca 2007ish (I think) launch date.
- b00ty4breakfast 7mo agoOk, I looked it up; Saddam Hussein was executed on December 30, 2006 and the ps3 launched on Nov 11, 2006 in Japan and Nov 17, 2006 in the US. So, technically, he was alive for the launch.
- Intermernet 7mo agoThat factoid has the ingredients for an awesome conspiracy theory ;-)
- genewitch 7mo agoin case you don't check up again, i did find this https://web.archive.org/web/20041120084657/http://arrakis.ncsa.uiuc.edu/ps2/ https://web.archive.org/web/20041120084657/http://arrakis.nc... And in my mind the whole story was a publicity stunt, considering the political wind at the time and the place that broke the story; which was then quoted at me in college.
- genewitch 7mo agoI said the word claimed. in the past. And it was more like: thousands of PS2 because sony/japan marked them dual use because they "were so powerful." So probably astro-turfed or even native advertising (considering the place that "broke" the story.) buuuuut https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_cluster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_cluster the US government went ahead and did make a supercomputer out of PS3s. anyhow thanks for helping me confirm my memory is functioning perfectly. ETA: https://web.archive.org/web/20041120084657/http://arrakis.ncsa.uiuc.edu/ps2/ https://web.archive.org/web/20041120084657/http://arrakis.nc... probably where this "wacky" idea came from...
- widowlark 7mo agothey couldn't have gone for 1776 of them?
- AlphaAndOmega0 7mo agoI would be curious to know more precise numbers. My intuition suggests that when Sony sells millions of them, the number diverted for non-gaming purposes is maybe thousands or tens of thousands.
- mr_toad 7mo agoNearly 90 million units by the time it was discontinued, but I'm not sure how many were sold at the point they removed Linux support.
- monocasa 7mo agoThe marketing win of being able to say "these are so poweful, the military literally uses them in supercomputers" certainly more than makes up for a hundredth of a percent of consoles having a zero attach rate.
- vdvebjrc 7mo ago[dead]
- ChoGGi 7mo ago> Although I think it's sad the hardware got locked down in later revisions, I fully understand why they did it. The PS3 was coincidentally locked down after it was jail broken (broken in Jan, otheros patched out in Mar.
- Keyframe 7mo agoLinux on playstation was a play by Sony not to have customs like on a toy but as a more favorable computer merchandise. They didn't care.
- pjmlp 7mo agoNope, that was with YA BASIC.
- monocasa 7mo agoThere were different customs for different countries targetted with different tactics. Ya basic was only one front in that war.
- pjmlp 7mo agoSure, if we disregard that PS2 Linux came almost two years later, was only sold via Internet, added an extra 500 euros on top, although it got discounted into 300 euros at the end of PS2 lifetime. I own one such kit.
- monocasa 7mo agoThat doesn't factor into it, because the tariffs, bans, etc they were trying to circumvent weren't dependent on the software shipping with the device in that case, nor the separate price of the software, nor were they even necessarily primarily targeting Europe. Each of these schemes had different sets of regulatory checkboxes they were trying to tick, and so had very different end products.
- pjmlp 7mo agoSure as you wish, I was a PlayStation fanboy back then, since Yaroze, and surely remember YA BASIC for PS2 and Other OS for PS 3, being the only ones. Yaroze and PS2 Linux never had anything to do with tariffs.
- rustyhancock 7mo agoIn their defense, they clamped down following lobbying (and pressure) from Nintendo IIRC. Part of me also thinks that Microsoft were so forward with offering what was basically a test kit because they were confident in their security.
- extraduder_ire 7mo agoWhy Nintendo? Far as I know, they've never released anything on an xbox console.
- akramachamarei 7mo agoNintendo doesn't want users emulating Nintendo systems in the Xbox is my guess.
- ornornor 7mo agoNintendo is notoriouslg very aggressive with their IP. I bet they weren’t happy you could emulate a switch or something.
- wodenokoto 7mo agoNo, and theyd like to keep their games off of any Xbox.