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I don't understand why it was flagged unless it's just someone flagging anything negative about Musk related projects (which I don't think it is at all a valid

I don't understand why it was flagged unless it's just someone flagging anything negative about Musk related projects (which I don't think it is at all a valid reason).

thrance 8mo ago
That's exactly it. Everything negative about Musk gets flagged and downvoted, and the moderation doesn't care about that.
- Schmerika 8mo ago
  Honestly it's not even that moderation doesn't care. Garry Tan and PG were big DOGE fans, and I'm not silly enough to believe that the moderation are unaware of that fact. There's been far too many flagged Musk stories that never get unflagged to put it down to simple incompetence and neglect.
  - rsynnott 8mo ago
    I mean, honestly, "HN voting is poorly designed and is vulnerable to coordinated action" would explain it fairly neatly; I'd totally buy that this is incompetence vs malice by the operators.
    - Schmerika 8mo ago
      With respect, if you believe that then you likely aren't aware of the true scale of the problem. Unless they follow /active, /new, and have [showdead] on, people have very little idea just how much is getting suppressed here... And it's a lot, especially this past year, and extremely especially if it's anything Musk-related. Another reason most people here don't know how bad it's got is because posts about the poor flagging system are explicitly disallowed. For that reason alone it's quite hard to say this is purely incompetence with no malice. You can ask mods for permission to make a post about the flagging system - you'll be denied. People have tried making posts about all the Musk stories being flagged - flagged by moderation. Every time. Quickly. So, no. Unfortunately, this isn't a case where I'm happy to assume incompetence. Look at where we're at - a post about the richest tech bro in the world enabling mass creep shit of the worst kind remains flagged for hours. That's absolutely vile - and far from a rare event here.
rsynnott 8mo ago
Yeah, nah, it's that. Always happens.
christianqchung 8mo ago
Does it get flagged because of users or dang/admin? I don't see any other reason for this to get flagged.

I don't understand why it was flagged unless it's just someone flagging anything negative about Musk related projects (which I don't think it is at all a valid reason).

thrance 8mo ago

That's exactly it. Everything negative about Musk gets flagged and downvoted, and the moderation doesn't care about that.

Schmerika 8mo ago
Honestly it's not even that moderation doesn't care. Garry Tan and PG were big DOGE fans, and I'm not silly enough to believe that the moderation are unaware of that fact. There's been far too many flagged Musk stories that never get unflagged to put it down to simple incompetence and neglect.
- rsynnott 8mo ago
  I mean, honestly, "HN voting is poorly designed and is vulnerable to coordinated action" would explain it fairly neatly; I'd totally buy that this is incompetence vs malice by the operators.
  - Schmerika 8mo ago
    With respect, if you believe that then you likely aren't aware of the true scale of the problem. Unless they follow /active, /new, and have [showdead] on, people have very little idea just how much is getting suppressed here... And it's a lot, especially this past year, and extremely especially if it's anything Musk-related. Another reason most people here don't know how bad it's got is because posts about the poor flagging system are explicitly disallowed. For that reason alone it's quite hard to say this is purely incompetence with no malice. You can ask mods for permission to make a post about the flagging system - you'll be denied. People have tried making posts about all the Musk stories being flagged - flagged by moderation. Every time. Quickly. So, no. Unfortunately, this isn't a case where I'm happy to assume incompetence. Look at where we're at - a post about the richest tech bro in the world enabling mass creep shit of the worst kind remains flagged for hours. That's absolutely vile - and far from a rare event here.

rsynnott 8mo ago

Yeah, nah, it's that. Always happens.

christianqchung 8mo ago

Does it get flagged because of users or dang/admin? I don't see any other reason for this to get flagged.