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I wanted to try an Atomic Linux, I think I tried the Fedora flavor, nothing really worked for me for some reason, I gave in to Arch and tried it a la EndeavourO

I wanted to try an Atomic Linux, I think I tried the Fedora flavor, nothing really worked for me for some reason, I gave in to Arch and tried it a la EndeavourOS. Have not looked back since.

ogogmad 8mo ago
You might know this, but unfortunately, if you leave an Arch install unused for enough time, and then run an update, you might not be able to boot into a working desktop. [EDIT] Oh, and I had a lot of problems installing Kalpa (from the submission) - all which I got fixed by using ChatGPT.
- giancarlostoro 8mo ago
  I've left it for a long time and also run it daily sometimes, still no issues. My understanding is brick level changes usually are fixed quickly.
  - fhn 8mo ago
    brick level changes will render the device unusable. You dismiss it like it was no big deal to brick a device.
    - giancarlostoro 8mo ago
      Eh I misspoke, I don't think you can actually brick anything with this, its just it might not boot properly, you can still format over it, or fix it if you run a LIVE Linux disk to rollback. You also always have an option to run previous system configuration. The more I think about it, I don't even use Pacman, I just use the other tool that comes with Endeavuor, which is a face to Pacman and probably shields me from doing doofus things. Pacman is easy to screw up an update with.
      - 0134340 8mo ago
        EOSupdate is basically just a yay and pacman script, as I understand it.
  - ogogmad 8mo ago
    How long is a long time? I left mine for 2 years.
- ziml77 8mo ago
  I left an Arch install sitting for a few months and came back and had trouble getting the updates to properly install. Seems the advice around it is basically just don't go that long without updating.
- pamcake 8mo ago
  Bollocks. This can happen for any distro or OS. Stick to distro packages and this isn't notably more true for Arch than for most other distros or OSs. If you build and install packages from AUR, or use dodgy repos like Manjaro, then risk of update woes will increase significantly.
  - ogogmad 8mo ago
    > Bollocks. This can happen for any distro or OS I've never had this happen with Windows or Mac. > this isn't notably more true for Arch than for most other distros Agreed. Welcome to Linux.
  - SahAssar 8mo ago
    I don't have key problems on Debian or Fedora, but I do on Arch, even without AUR packages.
    - pamcake 8mo ago
      It's possible that you won't anymore if you preceed full upgrades with a `pacman -Sy archlinux-keyring`.
      - SahAssar 8mo ago
        If I have to solve it by applying a manual fix it's still a problem, right? Also at least up until 2 years ago (I have since stopped using arch) that did not solve it.

I wanted to try an Atomic Linux, I think I tried the Fedora flavor, nothing really worked for me for some reason, I gave in to Arch and tried it a la EndeavourOS. Have not looked back since.

ogogmad 8mo ago

You might know this, but unfortunately, if you leave an Arch install unused for enough time, and then run an update, you might not be able to boot into a working desktop. [EDIT] Oh, and I had a lot of problems installing Kalpa (from the submission) - all which I got fixed by using ChatGPT.

giancarlostoro 8mo ago
I've left it for a long time and also run it daily sometimes, still no issues. My understanding is brick level changes usually are fixed quickly.
- fhn 8mo ago
  brick level changes will render the device unusable. You dismiss it like it was no big deal to brick a device.
  - giancarlostoro 8mo ago
    Eh I misspoke, I don't think you can actually brick anything with this, its just it might not boot properly, you can still format over it, or fix it if you run a LIVE Linux disk to rollback. You also always have an option to run previous system configuration. The more I think about it, I don't even use Pacman, I just use the other tool that comes with Endeavuor, which is a face to Pacman and probably shields me from doing doofus things. Pacman is easy to screw up an update with.
    - 0134340 8mo ago
      EOSupdate is basically just a yay and pacman script, as I understand it.
- ogogmad 8mo ago
  How long is a long time? I left mine for 2 years.
ziml77 8mo ago
I left an Arch install sitting for a few months and came back and had trouble getting the updates to properly install. Seems the advice around it is basically just don't go that long without updating.
pamcake 8mo ago
Bollocks. This can happen for any distro or OS. Stick to distro packages and this isn't notably more true for Arch than for most other distros or OSs. If you build and install packages from AUR, or use dodgy repos like Manjaro, then risk of update woes will increase significantly.
- ogogmad 8mo ago
  > Bollocks. This can happen for any distro or OS I've never had this happen with Windows or Mac. > this isn't notably more true for Arch than for most other distros Agreed. Welcome to Linux.
- SahAssar 8mo ago
  I don't have key problems on Debian or Fedora, but I do on Arch, even without AUR packages.
  - pamcake 8mo ago
    It's possible that you won't anymore if you preceed full upgrades with a `pacman -Sy archlinux-keyring`.
    - SahAssar 8mo ago
      If I have to solve it by applying a manual fix it's still a problem, right? Also at least up until 2 years ago (I have since stopped using arch) that did not solve it.