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Poetic justice how Qatar's propaganda wire of Al Jazeera switches so easily from anti-Israel to pro-Israel. All it took is two weeks of reality of what happens

by breppp 7mo ago

Poetic justice how Qatar's propaganda wire of Al Jazeera switches so easily from anti-Israel to pro-Israel. All it took is two weeks of reality of what happens when you support the most extreme elements in the area, it all comes back hitting you in the face.

sph 7mo ago
Do you have other interests or is your day job only posting comments about Iran/Israel on Hacker News? From your comment history you seem to be quite dedicated to the topic. I wish there was a browser extension to tag such obvious sockpuppet accounts.
- oa335 7mo ago
  > is your day job only posting comments about Iran/Israel on Hacker News It very well may be - state of Israel has employed people to control online narrative for around 20 years. https://electronicintifada.net/content/internet-users-paid-spread-israeli-propaganda/8355 https://electronicintifada.net/content/internet-users-paid-s...
  - breppp 7mo ago
    there are no people that think differently than me, only paid actors
    - oa335 7mo ago
      > there are no people that think differently than me, only paid actors As much as I wish that were the case wrt Palestine, I’m sadly aware that it isn’t true. E.g. “ Nearly half (47 percent) of (Israeli) respondents agreed that "when conquering an enemy city, the Israel Defense Forces should act as the Israelites did in Jericho under Joshua's command – killing all its inhabitants." https://archive.is/QvrVu https://archive.is/QvrVu
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      - breppp 7mo ago
        I could discuss the issues with this poll which I cannot find anywhere, (Why are Arabs not polled? last time I checked they were people too, hacking a result much?) But I will ask you this, how is that related in any way to what I said or the thread itself?
        oa335 7mo ago
        It’s related because you claimed I am naive to how many people actually support Israel and its conduct. The median Israeli appears to support genocide, so it’s not at all surprising to me to interact with real people online who hold a pro-Israeli stance, even given the documented deployment of paid influencers (Hasbara).
        breppp 7mo ago
        I have to admit that I am having difficulty tracking your logic. However, in this somewhat unrelated post, it seems you are referring to the semantic shift that has occurred in the word "genocide", to mean "an act of war I do not support" rather than "an attempt at systematic extermination of an entire ethnicity". In that new meaning echoed here you'd have a problem finding Israelis that are against a war fought against Hamas, a rape gang that brought disaster upon themselves and their palestinian electorate, even if relabeled with a misappropriated word.
        oa335 7mo ago
        > it seems you are referring to the semantic shift that has occurred in the word "genocide", to mean "an act of war I do not support" rather than "an attempt at systematic extermination of an entire ethnicity". Genocide is “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group” https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition In this thread I am referring to this: “ Nearly half (47 percent) of (Israeli) respondents agreed that "when conquering an enemy city, the Israel Defense Forces should act as the Israelites did in Jericho under Joshua's command – killing all its inhabitants https://archive.is/QvrVu https://archive.is/QvrVu To rehash my argument since you claim to have trouble following: Israel occasionally pays influence to online discussion in a way that mimics organic discourse (Hasbara). However, Israeli public opinions are fairly remote from western liberal norms thus I’m unsurprised to interact with repugnant opinions from those who genuinely hold them, as opposed to paid commentators. “A rape gang” Personally I believe rapists should be given capital punishment. Unfortunately that isn’t the norm in Israe either it seems: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-21/ty-article-magazine/.premium/beatings-burns-attempted-sexual-assault-settlers-and-soldiers-abused-palestinians/0000018b-530f-d1d7-ab8b-7f5fca1d0000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-21/ty-article-ma... https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2026-03-16/ty-article-magazine/.premium/israeli-settlers-sexually-assaulted-palestinian-man-in-jordan-valley-witnesses-say/0000019c-f58f-d9bb-adbc-ff8ff6e80000 https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2026-0... https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-war-palestinians-prison-abuse-b11e5f0639b7fe51c5ea101f4b320f56 https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-war-palestinians-pris... In the last instance the rapists have been celebrated by politicians and tv shows.
- breppp 7mo ago
  I do, however forgive me as I am interested in the conflict as me and my extended family are currently being bombed. That on contrast with many in this site that are obsessed with the conflict with little knowledge apart from a sports-like team cheering Generally hacker news as a site due to moderation choices is quite the political site with disproportionate interest in Jews in the Middle East and their problems, with a few of the AI slop blog posts thrown in.
  - yalvhe2009 7mo ago
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cherry_tree 7mo ago
This is an opinion piece from a writer who has only 1 other contribution to Al Jazeera. The writer, as stated in the piece, is a former US state department employee, so the pro-Israel stance is not surprising.
- breppp 7mo ago
  In a publication like Al Jazeera that is managed by an authoritarian state, nothing gets published by accident. You also have to willfully ignore what's going on to not notice the relation to Iran attacking Qatar for two weeks

by breppp 7mo ago

sph 7mo ago

Do you have other interests or is your day job only posting comments about Iran/Israel on Hacker News? From your comment history you seem to be quite dedicated to the topic. I wish there was a browser extension to tag such obvious sockpuppet accounts.

oa335 7mo ago
> is your day job only posting comments about Iran/Israel on Hacker News It very well may be - state of Israel has employed people to control online narrative for around 20 years. https://electronicintifada.net/content/internet-users-paid-spread-israeli-propaganda/8355 https://electronicintifada.net/content/internet-users-paid-s...
- breppp 7mo ago
  there are no people that think differently than me, only paid actors
  - oa335 7mo ago
    > there are no people that think differently than me, only paid actors As much as I wish that were the case wrt Palestine, I’m sadly aware that it isn’t true. E.g. “ Nearly half (47 percent) of (Israeli) respondents agreed that "when conquering an enemy city, the Israel Defense Forces should act as the Israelites did in Jericho under Joshua's command – killing all its inhabitants." https://archive.is/QvrVu https://archive.is/QvrVu
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    - breppp 7mo ago
      I could discuss the issues with this poll which I cannot find anywhere, (Why are Arabs not polled? last time I checked they were people too, hacking a result much?) But I will ask you this, how is that related in any way to what I said or the thread itself?
      - oa335 7mo ago
        It’s related because you claimed I am naive to how many people actually support Israel and its conduct. The median Israeli appears to support genocide, so it’s not at all surprising to me to interact with real people online who hold a pro-Israeli stance, even given the documented deployment of paid influencers (Hasbara).
        breppp 7mo ago
        I have to admit that I am having difficulty tracking your logic. However, in this somewhat unrelated post, it seems you are referring to the semantic shift that has occurred in the word "genocide", to mean "an act of war I do not support" rather than "an attempt at systematic extermination of an entire ethnicity". In that new meaning echoed here you'd have a problem finding Israelis that are against a war fought against Hamas, a rape gang that brought disaster upon themselves and their palestinian electorate, even if relabeled with a misappropriated word.
        oa335 7mo ago
        > it seems you are referring to the semantic shift that has occurred in the word "genocide", to mean "an act of war I do not support" rather than "an attempt at systematic extermination of an entire ethnicity". Genocide is “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group” https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition In this thread I am referring to this: “ Nearly half (47 percent) of (Israeli) respondents agreed that "when conquering an enemy city, the Israel Defense Forces should act as the Israelites did in Jericho under Joshua's command – killing all its inhabitants https://archive.is/QvrVu https://archive.is/QvrVu To rehash my argument since you claim to have trouble following: Israel occasionally pays influence to online discussion in a way that mimics organic discourse (Hasbara). However, Israeli public opinions are fairly remote from western liberal norms thus I’m unsurprised to interact with repugnant opinions from those who genuinely hold them, as opposed to paid commentators. “A rape gang” Personally I believe rapists should be given capital punishment. Unfortunately that isn’t the norm in Israe either it seems: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-21/ty-article-magazine/.premium/beatings-burns-attempted-sexual-assault-settlers-and-soldiers-abused-palestinians/0000018b-530f-d1d7-ab8b-7f5fca1d0000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-21/ty-article-ma... https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2026-03-16/ty-article-magazine/.premium/israeli-settlers-sexually-assaulted-palestinian-man-in-jordan-valley-witnesses-say/0000019c-f58f-d9bb-adbc-ff8ff6e80000 https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2026-0... https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-war-palestinians-prison-abuse-b11e5f0639b7fe51c5ea101f4b320f56 https://apnews.com/article/israel-gaza-war-palestinians-pris... In the last instance the rapists have been celebrated by politicians and tv shows.
breppp 7mo ago
I do, however forgive me as I am interested in the conflict as me and my extended family are currently being bombed. That on contrast with many in this site that are obsessed with the conflict with little knowledge apart from a sports-like team cheering Generally hacker news as a site due to moderation choices is quite the political site with disproportionate interest in Jews in the Middle East and their problems, with a few of the AI slop blog posts thrown in.
- yalvhe2009 7mo ago
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cherry_tree 7mo ago

This is an opinion piece from a writer who has only 1 other contribution to Al Jazeera. The writer, as stated in the piece, is a former US state department employee, so the pro-Israel stance is not surprising.

breppp 7mo ago
In a publication like Al Jazeera that is managed by an authoritarian state, nothing gets published by accident. You also have to willfully ignore what's going on to not notice the relation to Iran attacking Qatar for two weeks