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Sure, but the fact remains that it was referred for criminal prosecution. They didn't follow through, this time, but the victim still had his "lesson" about ins

Sure, but the fact remains that it was referred for criminal prosecution. They didn't follow through, this time, but the victim still had his "lesson" about insulting his betters. And Germany really did sentence people for calling Mr. Habeck "Schwachkopf", which is about as mild an insult as you can find.

tashbarg 7mo ago
Germany really did not. Where do you get such nonsense? The guy was sentenced for distributing forbidden Nazi materials. The initial insult investigation was dropped, because of it being insignificant.
Mashimo 7mo ago
> And Germany really did sentence people for calling Mr. Habeck "Schwachkopf", which is about as mild an insult as you can find. Did not know about this, here is the wiki: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwachkopf-Aff%C3%A4re https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwachkopf-Aff%C3%A4re His house was searched because of it, but he did not get sentenced for it. Reminds me of Pimmelgate https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Grote#Umstrittene_Reaktion_auf_Beleidigung_im_Internet https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Grote#Umstrittene_Reaktio...
- tashbarg 7mo ago
  There is a strong hint in the search warrant, that they knew about the distribution of Nazi materials. Just calling someone Schwachkopf doesn’t get prosecutors to investigate further.
  - Mashimo 7mo ago
    Weeeeeell .. to counter that argument there is pimmelgate. I know it was not legit, but they searched his house, even after he was at the police station and confessed. That leads to selv censorship, even if what you did was legal.
    - tashbarg 7mo ago
      Yes, I think I am with you. That search should not have happened (and consequently was ruled unlawful by a court afterwards). But it should not have happened in the first place. I hope (but do not know) that in the Schwachkopf-case, they just took the shortcut via insult instead of opening an investigation for the Nazi stuff. But we don’t know that. I believe, that we can express our opinions and discuss them without insulting people (in the legal sense). And I hope, that prosecutors do not lightly investigate each Schwachkopf they find on the internet. And for all the other cases, the courts need to be involved.

tashbarg 7mo ago

Germany really did not. Where do you get such nonsense? The guy was sentenced for distributing forbidden Nazi materials. The initial insult investigation was dropped, because of it being insignificant.

Mashimo 7mo ago

> And Germany really did sentence people for calling Mr. Habeck "Schwachkopf", which is about as mild an insult as you can find. Did not know about this, here is the wiki: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwachkopf-Aff%C3%A4re https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwachkopf-Aff%C3%A4re His house was searched because of it, but he did not get sentenced for it. Reminds me of Pimmelgate https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Grote#Umstrittene_Reaktion_auf_Beleidigung_im_Internet https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Grote#Umstrittene_Reaktio...

tashbarg 7mo ago
There is a strong hint in the search warrant, that they knew about the distribution of Nazi materials. Just calling someone Schwachkopf doesn’t get prosecutors to investigate further.
- Mashimo 7mo ago
  Weeeeeell .. to counter that argument there is pimmelgate. I know it was not legit, but they searched his house, even after he was at the police station and confessed. That leads to selv censorship, even if what you did was legal.
  - tashbarg 7mo ago
    Yes, I think I am with you. That search should not have happened (and consequently was ruled unlawful by a court afterwards). But it should not have happened in the first place. I hope (but do not know) that in the Schwachkopf-case, they just took the shortcut via insult instead of opening an investigation for the Nazi stuff. But we don’t know that. I believe, that we can express our opinions and discuss them without insulting people (in the legal sense). And I hope, that prosecutors do not lightly investigate each Schwachkopf they find on the internet. And for all the other cases, the courts need to be involved.