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Stop Using Brave Browser

6 points by doener 8mo ago

bpbp-mango 8mo ago
Eich being forced out due to a personal donation was shameful, actually
- nunobrito 8mo ago
  Fortunately people have gotten more immune to that kind of tactic nowadays.
- speakingmoistly 8mo ago
  Why so? He's a public persona and was initially picked for a high-visibility position at Mozilla. While he's free to donate to whoever (or more generally, do) as he sees fit, the org is equally free to not want to be associated with that. In the case of positions that aren't in the public eye, there's more of an argument to be made (although even there, there are lines where you can argue that a contributor doesn't align with the values of the organization depending on what the disagreements are), but if he's meant to represent the group, the expectation of privacy is different.
zer0zzz 8mo ago
If you want people to stop using a thing, make a better thing. These moralistic and political arguments only make you look and sound weak. You know what sounds weak? “Don’t eat at chicken fila because of politics blah blah blah” But you know what wins customers? Popeyes _MF_!
- dryadin 8mo ago
  Values are an integral part of tech design. I think that a lot of people don't use Chrome because of Google's tracking and profiling ecosystem, even though they feel it is a good browser. I prefer to use an open-source product, even if it may not be the best, just because I support open source as an idea. That is not weak.
  - zer0zzz 7mo ago
    people don’t use chrome because ads are annoying and because google ads on the front page led them into scam sites. Or because chrome is inefficient. That’s the only reason anyone seems to use brave or safari anyways.
tim-tday 8mo ago
This article is idiotic. Here is a strong assertion backed by some flimsy personal preferences. Ooh targeted ads bad crypto bad, man bad. Sure but let’s consider proportionality (these things really aren’t dealbreakers) and alternatives (there aren’t good alternatives)

6 points by doener 8mo ago

bpbp-mango 8mo ago

Eich being forced out due to a personal donation was shameful, actually

nunobrito 8mo ago
Fortunately people have gotten more immune to that kind of tactic nowadays.
speakingmoistly 8mo ago
Why so? He's a public persona and was initially picked for a high-visibility position at Mozilla. While he's free to donate to whoever (or more generally, do) as he sees fit, the org is equally free to not want to be associated with that. In the case of positions that aren't in the public eye, there's more of an argument to be made (although even there, there are lines where you can argue that a contributor doesn't align with the values of the organization depending on what the disagreements are), but if he's meant to represent the group, the expectation of privacy is different.

zer0zzz 8mo ago

If you want people to stop using a thing, make a better thing. These moralistic and political arguments only make you look and sound weak. You know what sounds weak? “Don’t eat at chicken fila because of politics blah blah blah” But you know what wins customers? Popeyes _MF_!

dryadin 8mo ago
Values are an integral part of tech design. I think that a lot of people don't use Chrome because of Google's tracking and profiling ecosystem, even though they feel it is a good browser. I prefer to use an open-source product, even if it may not be the best, just because I support open source as an idea. That is not weak.
- zer0zzz 7mo ago
  people don’t use chrome because ads are annoying and because google ads on the front page led them into scam sites. Or because chrome is inefficient. That’s the only reason anyone seems to use brave or safari anyways.

tim-tday 8mo ago

This article is idiotic. Here is a strong assertion backed by some flimsy personal preferences. Ooh targeted ads bad crypto bad, man bad. Sure but let’s consider proportionality (these things really aren’t dealbreakers) and alternatives (there aren’t good alternatives)