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The kind of pro-Iran state that has hosted the biggest US military base in the Middle East for decades. International politics are messy, as there are too many

The kind of pro-Iran state that has hosted the biggest US military base in the Middle East for decades. International politics are messy, as there are too many actors with their own agendas. You try to avoid taking sides and to stay out of trouble, but sometimes you end up in trouble anyway due to the choices others made.

alephnerd 7mo ago
> The kind of pro-Iran state that has hosted the biggest US military base in the Middle East for decades... Al Udeid and Exxon's stake in QatarEnergy is Qatar's tribute to the US to not be added onto sanctions lists for conducting business with Iran. Al Udeid Airbase was only established in 1996 after Iran and Qatar began collaborating on LNG extraction in the early 1990s and after Iran helped put down a coup attempt in Qatar in 1996 [0]. Qatar's Energy Minister - who is also CEO of QatarEnergy - is also a member of Banu Ka'b, an Arab clan that still has blood ties in Ahvaz today. > International politics are messy I know. I used to work in the policy space. People really overestimate the history of the US presence in West Asia. The only states we had deep continuous ties with in the region were Turkiye (their military junta was always pro-American and a core part of Operation Gladio) and Iran until the Shah was deposed. Israel's primary defense benefactor until the 1990s was France, Saudi's primary defense benefactor until the 1980s was France (it was French special forces that put down al-Otaybi in 1979), and the Gulf+Jordan's was the UK then France. The US on really entered the region in earnest after the 1973 oil crisis but pulled back after the Iran Embassy Crisis and the Beirut bombings which led the Reagan admin to decide to let the French and their allies+defense partners the Israelis and Turks manage that headache (but we'd gladly bankroll any anti-Soviet activities in the region), and we didn't return to the region until the Gulf War. [0] - https://www.danielpipes.org/6317/hamad-bin-jasim-bin-jabr-al-thani https://www.danielpipes.org/6317/hamad-bin-jasim-bin-jabr-al...
- breppp 7mo ago
  > Israel's primary defense benefactor until the 1990s was France 1960s, and that's the time imo the US became heavily involved in the region

alephnerd 7mo ago

> The kind of pro-Iran state that has hosted the biggest US military base in the Middle East for decades... Al Udeid and Exxon's stake in QatarEnergy is Qatar's tribute to the US to not be added onto sanctions lists for conducting business with Iran. Al Udeid Airbase was only established in 1996 after Iran and Qatar began collaborating on LNG extraction in the early 1990s and after Iran helped put down a coup attempt in Qatar in 1996 [0]. Qatar's Energy Minister - who is also CEO of QatarEnergy - is also a member of Banu Ka'b, an Arab clan that still has blood ties in Ahvaz today. > International politics are messy I know. I used to work in the policy space. People really overestimate the history of the US presence in West Asia. The only states we had deep continuous ties with in the region were Turkiye (their military junta was always pro-American and a core part of Operation Gladio) and Iran until the Shah was deposed. Israel's primary defense benefactor until the 1990s was France, Saudi's primary defense benefactor until the 1980s was France (it was French special forces that put down al-Otaybi in 1979), and the Gulf+Jordan's was the UK then France. The US on really entered the region in earnest after the 1973 oil crisis but pulled back after the Iran Embassy Crisis and the Beirut bombings which led the Reagan admin to decide to let the French and their allies+defense partners the Israelis and Turks manage that headache (but we'd gladly bankroll any anti-Soviet activities in the region), and we didn't return to the region until the Gulf War. [0] - https://www.danielpipes.org/6317/hamad-bin-jasim-bin-jabr-al-thani https://www.danielpipes.org/6317/hamad-bin-jasim-bin-jabr-al...

breppp 7mo ago
> Israel's primary defense benefactor until the 1990s was France 1960s, and that's the time imo the US became heavily involved in the region