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Yes, I can clearly and with good conscious say that it is 100% a-ok to break the lock or take a cracked copy of software you already paid $10,000 for to operate

Yes, I can clearly and with good conscious say that it is 100% a-ok to break the lock or take a cracked copy of software you already paid $10,000 for to operate with a $180,000 system if the vendor is going to gouge you over a trivial issue. I'm really sorry that you live in a fantasy world sponsored by the MPAA and RIAA. I've already paid my pound of flesh to get my work done, intentionally not backporting a dongle driver to force upgrades at $10k a whack is the stuff slime is made of. They do this because they know very well there are not many/any alternative vendors for this equipment, which happens to be an exotic motion capture rig absolutely critical to my work. Fuck that and fuck anyone who tells me I have to grin and bear it or otherwise just wave my hands and go without all because otherwise I might offend their sensibilities over how I might see their software. Personally, I don't care about your software. It hasn't done anything slimy to me yet. You're safe.

yb66 14y ago
Firstly, 2 wrongs do not make a right (your first logically fallacy is a tu-quoque) Second, you used ad hominem directly (implying they're living in a fantasy world) and an appeal to the audience (bringing up MPAA etc) - another set of even worse logical fallicies. You may as well just call someone a cocksucker for all the intellectual weight this kind of argument carries, at least then you're not hiding behind some kind of faux intellect and moral superiority given to you by political choices. Thirdly, if you have the ability to crack their security change their drivers and you don't like the price, you are free to create your own commercial version (or open source it). They did, and apparently they're doing quite well out of it. Fourth, if you are able to pay $180,000 for a system and then $10,000 for the initial dongle, and you haven't budgeted for seemingly expensive extras (yet not in the context of a $180k system) then you've no right to criticise anyone else for their poor work practices. Pay the money and learn how to budget. What you did (or advocate, I'm not sure how much I believe you) was steal from someone, regardless of their morality or character, and your argument to justify it is incredibly weak. If you can make it in a non-fallacious way then at least it will carry some weight in that regard, I'd invite you to try.
bpatrianakos 14y ago
I'm sorry, I misunderstood part of what you said. I'm actually cool with people cracking software they've already paid for. That's fine. To me that's like modifying your car in ways that stop it from being street legal. You should be free to do so but at the same time I won't feel bad for you if you were ever stopped for speeding. Now that I understand your example better I don't think you're comparing equivalent things. It's one thing to just take something because you don't like the price and it's another thing to break contract and modify something you've already paid for. Both are still wrong but I can see the justification for the latter.
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yb66 14y ago

Firstly, 2 wrongs do not make a right (your first logically fallacy is a tu-quoque) Second, you used ad hominem directly (implying they're living in a fantasy world) and an appeal to the audience (bringing up MPAA etc) - another set of even worse logical fallicies. You may as well just call someone a cocksucker for all the intellectual weight this kind of argument carries, at least then you're not hiding behind some kind of faux intellect and moral superiority given to you by political choices. Thirdly, if you have the ability to crack their security change their drivers and you don't like the price, you are free to create your own commercial version (or open source it). They did, and apparently they're doing quite well out of it. Fourth, if you are able to pay $180,000 for a system and then $10,000 for the initial dongle, and you haven't budgeted for seemingly expensive extras (yet not in the context of a $180k system) then you've no right to criticise anyone else for their poor work practices. Pay the money and learn how to budget. What you did (or advocate, I'm not sure how much I believe you) was steal from someone, regardless of their morality or character, and your argument to justify it is incredibly weak. If you can make it in a non-fallacious way then at least it will carry some weight in that regard, I'd invite you to try.

bpatrianakos 14y ago

I'm sorry, I misunderstood part of what you said. I'm actually cool with people cracking software they've already paid for. That's fine. To me that's like modifying your car in ways that stop it from being street legal. You should be free to do so but at the same time I won't feel bad for you if you were ever stopped for speeding. Now that I understand your example better I don't think you're comparing equivalent things. It's one thing to just take something because you don't like the price and it's another thing to break contract and modify something you've already paid for. Both are still wrong but I can see the justification for the latter.

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