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> Thiel is on the record in many ways that would justify the GPs statement. Thiel is on the record saying he would use the data to make health and security wor

by Uhhrrr 7mo ago

> Thiel is on the record in many ways that would justify the GPs statement. Thiel is on the record saying he would use the data to make health and security worse? On the record saying he would abuse access? AFAICT this is not true.

jacquesm 7mo ago
I'll just give you one, and you can google for others: "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible." For a guy with his access to data, yes, that makes everybody's security worse.
- Uhhrrr 7mo ago
  This is an incomplete quote from a pro-freedom essay: https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/education-libertarian/ https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/educatio... Edit: Also, that quote does not provide evidence that he is "on the record" saying he would abuse access or make health or security worse.
  - krupan 7mo ago
    That "essay" is only 14 paragraphs. It is pro freedom on the surface, but that just adds weight to the overall message that he is anti democracy. That he believes we'll find more freedom by abondoning democracy and moving to some other system doesn't reassure me of his sanity.
  - jacquesm 7mo ago
    You fail at reading comprehension. That's fine, but don't do it here. Thank you.
    - Uhhrrr 7mo ago
      I'm trying to understand better. You said "Thiel is on the record in many ways that would justify the GPs statement." And your support for this "on the record in many ways" claim was a single quote, "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible." Are you basing your claim about Thiel's trustworthiness on a belief that only people with faith in democracy can be trustworthy? Edit: For example, Tocqueville wrote, "Some have not feared to assert that a people can never outstep the boundaries of justice and reason in those affairs which are peculiarly its own; and that consequently full power may be given to the majority by which it is represented. But this is the language of a slave." Do you find him untrustworthy now?

by Uhhrrr 7mo ago

jacquesm 7mo ago

I'll just give you one, and you can google for others: "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible." For a guy with his access to data, yes, that makes everybody's security worse.

Uhhrrr 7mo ago
This is an incomplete quote from a pro-freedom essay: https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/education-libertarian/ https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/educatio... Edit: Also, that quote does not provide evidence that he is "on the record" saying he would abuse access or make health or security worse.
- krupan 7mo ago
  That "essay" is only 14 paragraphs. It is pro freedom on the surface, but that just adds weight to the overall message that he is anti democracy. That he believes we'll find more freedom by abondoning democracy and moving to some other system doesn't reassure me of his sanity.
- jacquesm 7mo ago
  You fail at reading comprehension. That's fine, but don't do it here. Thank you.
  - Uhhrrr 7mo ago
    I'm trying to understand better. You said "Thiel is on the record in many ways that would justify the GPs statement." And your support for this "on the record in many ways" claim was a single quote, "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible." Are you basing your claim about Thiel's trustworthiness on a belief that only people with faith in democracy can be trustworthy? Edit: For example, Tocqueville wrote, "Some have not feared to assert that a people can never outstep the boundaries of justice and reason in those affairs which are peculiarly its own; and that consequently full power may be given to the majority by which it is represented. But this is the language of a slave." Do you find him untrustworthy now?