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There exists a sensible way to handle this. It is to require at least three independent news outlet reports of an event (as defined in the bet). A related issu

There exists a sensible way to handle this. It is to require at least three independent news outlet reports of an event (as defined in the bet). A related issue is that war news is heavily censored in Israel; it's difficult for news outlets to report it.

bagacrap 8mo ago
Or y'know, ban this betting activity to begin with.
- alkonaut 8mo ago
  It's really hard I think. I mean if we assume sports betting is never going away (Outside of the US at least, sports betting is barely controversial and is basically now, unfortunately the oxygen of a lot of the whole sports industry). A lot of the large sports betting orgs (Unibet, Bet365, Ladbrokes, etc) allow betting on at least some contests that aren't sports. Like elections, Eurovision song contests and so on. So it becomes difficult to draw a line between the things that are legal to bet on, and those that aren't. And as we know, even if two things are clearly on either side of what should be legal but you can't make a good distinction of what makes one of them illegal, it tends to be the case that both remain legal. I think the easier short term fix for this is to have KYC laws and actually enforce them.
- OutOfHere 8mo ago
  It already is not accessible in the US, although ideally it should be in the same of freedom. If you are from the US and don't value personal freedom, you are free to leave it, as it is a core tenet of what is American. Making death threats to a journalist or anyone already is illegal. There is zero reason to ban betting considering the sensible mitigation that was noted.
  - jbxntuehineoh 8mo ago
    > If you are from the US and don't value personal freedom, you are free to leave it, as it is a core tenet of what is American. "Everyone I disagree with is Not A Real American and should just leave the country. Who's a Real American? Well, someone who agrees with my personal political views, of course." utterly idiotic worldview
    - OutOfHere 8mo ago
      Pursuing personal freedom is highly self-consistent; there is nothing idiotic about it. Those who seek to repress will on the other hand soon find themselves repressed.
- happyopossum 8mo ago
  > Or y'know, ban this betting activity to begin with. Ban it where exactly? If you’ve got personal knowledge of where these knuckleheads reside, speak up. It’s entirely possible that it is banned where they are and they just got a VPN and did it anyway.
inerte 8mo ago
It's also hard to have 3 independent outlets report on all the thing.s This seems like a small story that only some people in Polymarket cared about I guess? It's not like 3 different news outlets were calling authorities to confirm what really happened here. It wasn't big enough to deserve more than 1 journalist going to the source and doing all this work.
- OutOfHere 8mo ago
  Israel doesn't have a free press, so it stays largely suppressed. If it did, surely more local news outlets would cover it. Israel strongly censors domestic war news.
  - Pay08 8mo ago
    This always seems like such a lazy way of thinking. How do you know more local news outlets didn't report it? More to the point, do you even speak Hebrew? If not, how would you be able to tell whether or not it was reported on, or what the local outlets are in the first place? Also, how does a large, national newspaper reporting on it indicate a lack of free press?

bagacrap 8mo ago

Or y'know, ban this betting activity to begin with.

alkonaut 8mo ago
It's really hard I think. I mean if we assume sports betting is never going away (Outside of the US at least, sports betting is barely controversial and is basically now, unfortunately the oxygen of a lot of the whole sports industry). A lot of the large sports betting orgs (Unibet, Bet365, Ladbrokes, etc) allow betting on at least some contests that aren't sports. Like elections, Eurovision song contests and so on. So it becomes difficult to draw a line between the things that are legal to bet on, and those that aren't. And as we know, even if two things are clearly on either side of what should be legal but you can't make a good distinction of what makes one of them illegal, it tends to be the case that both remain legal. I think the easier short term fix for this is to have KYC laws and actually enforce them.
OutOfHere 8mo ago
It already is not accessible in the US, although ideally it should be in the same of freedom. If you are from the US and don't value personal freedom, you are free to leave it, as it is a core tenet of what is American. Making death threats to a journalist or anyone already is illegal. There is zero reason to ban betting considering the sensible mitigation that was noted.
- jbxntuehineoh 8mo ago
  > If you are from the US and don't value personal freedom, you are free to leave it, as it is a core tenet of what is American. "Everyone I disagree with is Not A Real American and should just leave the country. Who's a Real American? Well, someone who agrees with my personal political views, of course." utterly idiotic worldview
  - OutOfHere 8mo ago
    Pursuing personal freedom is highly self-consistent; there is nothing idiotic about it. Those who seek to repress will on the other hand soon find themselves repressed.
happyopossum 8mo ago
> Or y'know, ban this betting activity to begin with. Ban it where exactly? If you’ve got personal knowledge of where these knuckleheads reside, speak up. It’s entirely possible that it is banned where they are and they just got a VPN and did it anyway.

inerte 8mo ago

It's also hard to have 3 independent outlets report on all the thing.s This seems like a small story that only some people in Polymarket cared about I guess? It's not like 3 different news outlets were calling authorities to confirm what really happened here. It wasn't big enough to deserve more than 1 journalist going to the source and doing all this work.

OutOfHere 8mo ago
Israel doesn't have a free press, so it stays largely suppressed. If it did, surely more local news outlets would cover it. Israel strongly censors domestic war news.
- Pay08 8mo ago
  This always seems like such a lazy way of thinking. How do you know more local news outlets didn't report it? More to the point, do you even speak Hebrew? If not, how would you be able to tell whether or not it was reported on, or what the local outlets are in the first place? Also, how does a large, national newspaper reporting on it indicate a lack of free press?