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I have been thinking about this more and more the past few points, to the point where I feel like I have to run for office as a social duty. (USA) There are so

I have been thinking about this more and more the past few points, to the point where I feel like I have to run for office as a social duty. (USA) There are so few politicians who give more than lip service to stopping corruption. Our districts are embarrassing. People tolerating the blatant corruption by the Trump administration is something I don't understand. They will get upset about Epstein, but don't care about the corruption. (See for example the recent Jared Kushner contracts for one of many examples) Congress campaigns funded by PACs. Phrases of interest: "Conflict of interest". "Shame". It is wild how people still vote for corrupted politicians, which is almost all of them. My parents are the prototype. If you take money from corporate-funded interests, you still have a conflict of interest, even if you aren't caught acting in the favor of those corporations.

Forgeties79 7mo ago
Problem is a lot of people engage in textbook expressive responding when it comes to corruption. Everybody doesn’t like it allegedly, but a lot of people are willing to look the other way if they agree with the policy being carried out and, more importantly, politically aligned with the person engaging in the corruption. The bar they set is incredibly high unless it involves a politician they don’t support, then a rumor is enough for them to go “yeah I knew it.”
Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
It's the idea that I heard somewhere or watched but the idea's basically "slowly at first, then all of a sudden" My understanding of US/America/even-other-parts-of-world is that they weren't always like this but slowly turned into something where instead of voting for the better candidate, you are voting for a slightly less worse candidate and that opens up a can of worms because you just have to be or you have to somehow present yourself as a slightly lesser bad option to the masses (well the masses who vote anyway) Another tactic I have seen is just proposing that we will do something that no-one thinks is possible or should be possible because they don't make sense and its a "joke" but you plant the seeds in terms of jokes which they later capitalize upon on. Things happen slowly then all of a sudden and then they become norm. It's the silence that we have during it happening slowly that speaks the loudest.
- PaulHoule 7mo ago
  Actually here in the US the "politically sophisticated" voter chooses a party first, votes for their party every single time and chooses policy positions to fit their party rather than other way around. A few percent of people just kinda blow in the wind and might on a lark join in with a presidential candidate to "have a little fun" and those people are who make the difference in competitive elections.
  - bluGill 7mo ago
    Having been involved those choosing the party positions often are secretly voting third party. They are trying to change the party potition and when it works the vote for the party, but when it fails they vote for who they like. people who only vote in the general election, and maybe the primaries have choosen their party and then potitions based on the party.
    - PaulHoule 7mo ago
      In New York many elections are so lopsided that I'm inclined to vote third party because voting either D or R if I don't like the candidate is "wasting my vote". I was active in the Green Party (twisting people's arms to run for local office) in the early 2000s and think about voting Green in each presidential election but it's been a while because I don't particularly like Jill Stein and think if you're hard on CO2 you should be easy on Uranium.

Forgeties79 7mo ago

Problem is a lot of people engage in textbook expressive responding when it comes to corruption. Everybody doesn’t like it allegedly, but a lot of people are willing to look the other way if they agree with the policy being carried out and, more importantly, politically aligned with the person engaging in the corruption. The bar they set is incredibly high unless it involves a politician they don’t support, then a rumor is enough for them to go “yeah I knew it.”

Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago

It's the idea that I heard somewhere or watched but the idea's basically "slowly at first, then all of a sudden" My understanding of US/America/even-other-parts-of-world is that they weren't always like this but slowly turned into something where instead of voting for the better candidate, you are voting for a slightly less worse candidate and that opens up a can of worms because you just have to be or you have to somehow present yourself as a slightly lesser bad option to the masses (well the masses who vote anyway) Another tactic I have seen is just proposing that we will do something that no-one thinks is possible or should be possible because they don't make sense and its a "joke" but you plant the seeds in terms of jokes which they later capitalize upon on. Things happen slowly then all of a sudden and then they become norm. It's the silence that we have during it happening slowly that speaks the loudest.

PaulHoule 7mo ago
Actually here in the US the "politically sophisticated" voter chooses a party first, votes for their party every single time and chooses policy positions to fit their party rather than other way around. A few percent of people just kinda blow in the wind and might on a lark join in with a presidential candidate to "have a little fun" and those people are who make the difference in competitive elections.
- bluGill 7mo ago
  Having been involved those choosing the party positions often are secretly voting third party. They are trying to change the party potition and when it works the vote for the party, but when it fails they vote for who they like. people who only vote in the general election, and maybe the primaries have choosen their party and then potitions based on the party.
  - PaulHoule 7mo ago
    In New York many elections are so lopsided that I'm inclined to vote third party because voting either D or R if I don't like the candidate is "wasting my vote". I was active in the Green Party (twisting people's arms to run for local office) in the early 2000s and think about voting Green in each presidential election but it's been a while because I don't particularly like Jill Stein and think if you're hard on CO2 you should be easy on Uranium.