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His politics are less extreme than you probably think. Modern journalism goes for clicks, which means generating outrage.

light_hue_1 7mo ago
Did you see what DOGE did to the government? In particular to USAID? Estimates are that this has already killed hundreds of thousands of people who relied on that aid. The issue isn't just Musk's politics. It's that his actions have been evil, the kind of negative impact that major wars have. We're talking something like 1 million dead people per year with a quarter of those being children. For a level of assistance that cost the US nothing (0.43% of federal spending). This is an evil that in a few years puts you on the list of biggest mass murderers in history.
- SV_BubbleTime 7mo ago
  >USAID? Estimates are that this has already killed hundreds of thousands of people who relied on that aid. I know this was “the line” upfront… but USAID had nothing to do with aid… it was a soft power factory… it was the “we’re helping” face of the CIA.
  - vablings 7mo ago
    It was not the "helping face of the CIA" it's a means for the United States to maintain first world power order in a quid pro quo scheme. It's hardly groundbreaking or evil considering every single country with large wealth plays this game (eg; china, india europe ect), I give you lots of money and help your people and in exchange you do/don't do xyz. if you do xyz then we take away the money
    - SV_BubbleTime 7mo ago
      > it's a means for the United States to maintain first world power order in a quid pro quo scheme. Um… yes. Run by the CIA, with their helping face mask. Even if you disagree with what is easily researched… in no fucking way were they and aid organization. That was the low information “news follower” line put forward until it was so obviously disproven that everyone updated and pretended they didn’t complain about missing HIV vaccines to Africans.
- TMWNN 7mo ago
  If you haven't donated every cent you have to poor foreigners, you have contributed to their deaths. How can you live with yourself?
Gigachad 7mo ago
I've seen his tweets direct. You don't have to spin his opinions for them to look horrendous.
freehorse 7mo ago
> Modern journalism goes for clicks, which means generating outrage. Is this about journalists talking about musk, or about musk himself? I mostly learn about his views through his own tweets that twitter always makes sure to serve me in my home page, and "goes for clicks"/"generating outrage" seems to fit well how musk uses his platform. In any case, his politics seem awful to me even without any journalistic mediation of them.
locknitpicker 7mo ago
> His politics are less extreme than you probably think. Just look at the whole DOGE mess. Brush aside anything you believe can be brushed aside due to incompetence. Look at the result. Explain exactly what can possibly lead you to believe that his politics are less extreme than you possibly think. You're talking about the Nazi salute guy, by the way.
- bradley13 7mo ago
  Sure, and anyone who thinks that was a Nazi salute fell victim to clickbait. "My heart goes out to you" with a throwing gesture that ends with your arm outstretched. Of course, only the final position was blasted all over the press.
  - locknitpicker 7mo ago
    > Sure, and anyone who thinks that was a Nazi salute fell victim to clickbait. You need to be terribly naive to ignore the fact that the guy known for supporting a swath of fascist and far-right groups, to the point the guy even hosts their events, wasn't casually throwing around Nazi salutes.
  - Natfan 7mo ago
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brendoelfrendo 7mo ago
His own X posts make him out to be an apartheid apologist and white nationalist.
tverbeure 7mo ago
How does you spin his reply of "100%" to a "white solidarity is the only way to survive" tweet as not very extreme?

light_hue_1 7mo ago

Did you see what DOGE did to the government? In particular to USAID? Estimates are that this has already killed hundreds of thousands of people who relied on that aid. The issue isn't just Musk's politics. It's that his actions have been evil, the kind of negative impact that major wars have. We're talking something like 1 million dead people per year with a quarter of those being children. For a level of assistance that cost the US nothing (0.43% of federal spending). This is an evil that in a few years puts you on the list of biggest mass murderers in history.

SV_BubbleTime 7mo ago
>USAID? Estimates are that this has already killed hundreds of thousands of people who relied on that aid. I know this was “the line” upfront… but USAID had nothing to do with aid… it was a soft power factory… it was the “we’re helping” face of the CIA.
- vablings 7mo ago
  It was not the "helping face of the CIA" it's a means for the United States to maintain first world power order in a quid pro quo scheme. It's hardly groundbreaking or evil considering every single country with large wealth plays this game (eg; china, india europe ect), I give you lots of money and help your people and in exchange you do/don't do xyz. if you do xyz then we take away the money
  - SV_BubbleTime 7mo ago
    > it's a means for the United States to maintain first world power order in a quid pro quo scheme. Um… yes. Run by the CIA, with their helping face mask. Even if you disagree with what is easily researched… in no fucking way were they and aid organization. That was the low information “news follower” line put forward until it was so obviously disproven that everyone updated and pretended they didn’t complain about missing HIV vaccines to Africans.
TMWNN 7mo ago
If you haven't donated every cent you have to poor foreigners, you have contributed to their deaths. How can you live with yourself?

Gigachad 7mo ago

I've seen his tweets direct. You don't have to spin his opinions for them to look horrendous.

freehorse 7mo ago

> Modern journalism goes for clicks, which means generating outrage. Is this about journalists talking about musk, or about musk himself? I mostly learn about his views through his own tweets that twitter always makes sure to serve me in my home page, and "goes for clicks"/"generating outrage" seems to fit well how musk uses his platform. In any case, his politics seem awful to me even without any journalistic mediation of them.

locknitpicker 7mo ago

> His politics are less extreme than you probably think. Just look at the whole DOGE mess. Brush aside anything you believe can be brushed aside due to incompetence. Look at the result. Explain exactly what can possibly lead you to believe that his politics are less extreme than you possibly think. You're talking about the Nazi salute guy, by the way.

bradley13 7mo ago
Sure, and anyone who thinks that was a Nazi salute fell victim to clickbait. "My heart goes out to you" with a throwing gesture that ends with your arm outstretched. Of course, only the final position was blasted all over the press.
- locknitpicker 7mo ago
  > Sure, and anyone who thinks that was a Nazi salute fell victim to clickbait. You need to be terribly naive to ignore the fact that the guy known for supporting a swath of fascist and far-right groups, to the point the guy even hosts their events, wasn't casually throwing around Nazi salutes.
- Natfan 7mo ago
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brendoelfrendo 7mo ago

His own X posts make him out to be an apartheid apologist and white nationalist.

tverbeure 7mo ago

How does you spin his reply of "100%" to a "white solidarity is the only way to survive" tweet as not very extreme?