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Indeed. You might like this site we wrote that approaches from the technology angle. Didn’t write on a phone so may be a bit more coherent. ;-) https://trustw

Indeed. You might like this site we wrote that approaches from the technology angle. Didn’t write on a phone so may be a bit more coherent. ;-) https://trustworthy.technology/ https://trustworthy.technology/

jacquesm 8mo ago
That's fantastic stuff. I feel we're in some kind of 'inversion of control' situation here, from being the (relatively inept) masters of our tech we are slowly turned into peripherals. Textual change suggestion: "Earlier European censuses had helpfully laid out the details necessary to systematically and efficiently round up undesirables on a scale yet unseen or imagined." => "Earlier European censuses had helpfully laid out the details necessary to systematically and efficiently round up those that were labeled undesirables on a scale yet unseen or imagined." Also, I think malicious compliance needs to be addressed somehow, the tech industry has been weaponizing this.
- mixmastamyk 8mo ago
  Ok, will look at it when I wake up a bit more. The labeling/consequences of happened after the fact however, so might need additional clarification.
  - jacquesm 8mo ago
    The problem is that it marks them as undesirable, which they were in fact not. At least, that's how my non-English native brain interprets it.
    - mixmastamyk 8mo ago
      Ok, didn't mean they were literally unacceptable, but they were externally perceived as so. But I can see how it could be read that way. Would "scare quotes" be enough to avoid that? Edit: I edited it. Writing is hard. ;-) You might like the Zulip group if you've read that far. Better to discuss rewrites there than at HN. Re: malicious compliance There's a mention linked from a Proton post in the Recent history page, yet could definitely use its own section. Thanks for your help.
      - jacquesm 8mo ago
        Yes, that's one way to fix it. Otherwise it looks like it is you saying this.

jacquesm 8mo ago

That's fantastic stuff. I feel we're in some kind of 'inversion of control' situation here, from being the (relatively inept) masters of our tech we are slowly turned into peripherals. Textual change suggestion: "Earlier European censuses had helpfully laid out the details necessary to systematically and efficiently round up undesirables on a scale yet unseen or imagined." => "Earlier European censuses had helpfully laid out the details necessary to systematically and efficiently round up those that were labeled undesirables on a scale yet unseen or imagined." Also, I think malicious compliance needs to be addressed somehow, the tech industry has been weaponizing this.

mixmastamyk 8mo ago
Ok, will look at it when I wake up a bit more. The labeling/consequences of happened after the fact however, so might need additional clarification.
- jacquesm 8mo ago
  The problem is that it marks them as undesirable, which they were in fact not. At least, that's how my non-English native brain interprets it.
  - mixmastamyk 8mo ago
    Ok, didn't mean they were literally unacceptable, but they were externally perceived as so. But I can see how it could be read that way. Would "scare quotes" be enough to avoid that? Edit: I edited it. Writing is hard. ;-) You might like the Zulip group if you've read that far. Better to discuss rewrites there than at HN. Re: malicious compliance There's a mention linked from a Proton post in the Recent history page, yet could definitely use its own section. Thanks for your help.
    - jacquesm 8mo ago
      Yes, that's one way to fix it. Otherwise it looks like it is you saying this.