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It's a damper on development of new WMs and DEs, too. I have ideas for my own desktop I'd like to explore at some point, and if I do it'll almost certainly be X
by cosmic_cheese 7mo ago
It's a damper on development of new WMs and DEs, too. I have ideas for my own desktop I'd like to explore at some point, and if I do it'll almost certainly be X11 based initially because it's so much more quick and easy to wrap one's head around and get the iteration loop up and running with.
I'm not anti-Wayland and I think X11 has enough issues that it's worth transitioning over to something better but this is a critical weakness in Wayland's design.
- gf000 7mo agoHow is a WM not just a simple plugin/extension? Find a display server you like and write an extension for it!
- cosmic_cheese 7mo agoThat would suffice if I were only looking to build a WM, but my goal is a full (lean) DE.
- shevy-java 7mo agoThe xserver may not be completely dead either: https:/github.com/X11Libre/xserver
- anthk 7mo agoXenocara > Xlibre. Also, the NetBSD guys have a fork too.
- asveikau 7mo agoI'm using X11 every day on my personal machines and don't see a need to switch at this time. I think x11libre specifically is a little suspicious though. There's nothing wrong with the xorg packages I use today that requires a fork.
- LeFantome 7mo agoCheck out Louvre. Wayland compositors may not be as hard as you thought. Or build on River as this article suggests.