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Congrats to Dillon and the rest of the awesome members of the Dragonfly team, looking forward to testing the Postgres improvements. This is the most exciting BS

Congrats to Dillon and the rest of the awesome members of the Dragonfly team, looking forward to testing the Postgres improvements. This is the most exciting BSD distribution at the moment for me!

rohshall 14y ago
I tried Dragonfly BSD a month ago. I found some essential ports did not work and I could not install the development software I needed. I wish they establish their own ports soon instead of piggybacking on NetBSD or improve the reliability of the existing ports. Also, DF BSD is too focused on filesystems (and in general, all BSDs seem to share this trait) and less focused on a desktop user experience.
- neverm0re 14y ago
  And what exactly is wrong with working on something as forward-thinking as HAMMER2? (http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2012-02/msg00020.html http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2012-02/msg00...) DragonflyBSD's team is very small. Roughly fifteen people really active people if I recall? Only fifty people listed as contributors. It's smaller than any other major BSD, it's smaller than any of the major Linux distros by a substantial margin while also biting off more work as they're developing the entire operating system as a whole. That means you need to make tradeoffs like using NetBSD's pkg_src so you can free up time to work on more interesting things. Packages might break, but the intended audience at the moment for DragonflyBSD is very likely already familiar with building from source and comfortable supporting themselves, certainly with setting up a desktop on their own. I'd suggest looking later when HAMMER2 is out of the gate and they have more time to focus elsewhere, the ports situation certainly wouldn't be forever. (especially with help)
  - rohshall 14y ago
    I understand and appreciate the great work DragonFly BSD team is doing. I am just pointing out my less-than-satisfactory experience with the ports system I got FreeBSD and OpenBSD installed successfully on my laptop. Also, if I remember correctly, I tried building from ports as well. On some ports, I got the error that they are not supported for DragonFly. When I could not get OpenJDK port working, I just gave up because it is essential for me to have it working.
    - jrmarino 14y ago
      OpenJDK 7 has been building natively on both DragonFly platforms for a few months now. It's possible that the most current pkgsrc branch release, 2012Q3, is the first one where openJDK 7 works (maybe Q2, but I can't remember exactly when it was fixed). And you might get your wish on dedicated DragonFly ports... [teaser]
- TallGuyShort 14y ago
  I'm really sick of people ragging on the BSD's for their bad user experience. Dragonfly BSD has as its explicit goal to try develop ideas for a cluster operating system. Where did you get the idea that they were trying to deliver BSD on the desktop? Try PC BSD if that's what you want.

Congrats to Dillon and the rest of the awesome members of the Dragonfly team, looking forward to testing the Postgres improvements. This is the most exciting BSD distribution at the moment for me!

rohshall 14y ago

I tried Dragonfly BSD a month ago. I found some essential ports did not work and I could not install the development software I needed. I wish they establish their own ports soon instead of piggybacking on NetBSD or improve the reliability of the existing ports. Also, DF BSD is too focused on filesystems (and in general, all BSDs seem to share this trait) and less focused on a desktop user experience.

neverm0re 14y ago
And what exactly is wrong with working on something as forward-thinking as HAMMER2? (http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2012-02/msg00020.html http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2012-02/msg00...) DragonflyBSD's team is very small. Roughly fifteen people really active people if I recall? Only fifty people listed as contributors. It's smaller than any other major BSD, it's smaller than any of the major Linux distros by a substantial margin while also biting off more work as they're developing the entire operating system as a whole. That means you need to make tradeoffs like using NetBSD's pkg_src so you can free up time to work on more interesting things. Packages might break, but the intended audience at the moment for DragonflyBSD is very likely already familiar with building from source and comfortable supporting themselves, certainly with setting up a desktop on their own. I'd suggest looking later when HAMMER2 is out of the gate and they have more time to focus elsewhere, the ports situation certainly wouldn't be forever. (especially with help)
- rohshall 14y ago
  I understand and appreciate the great work DragonFly BSD team is doing. I am just pointing out my less-than-satisfactory experience with the ports system I got FreeBSD and OpenBSD installed successfully on my laptop. Also, if I remember correctly, I tried building from ports as well. On some ports, I got the error that they are not supported for DragonFly. When I could not get OpenJDK port working, I just gave up because it is essential for me to have it working.
  - jrmarino 14y ago
    OpenJDK 7 has been building natively on both DragonFly platforms for a few months now. It's possible that the most current pkgsrc branch release, 2012Q3, is the first one where openJDK 7 works (maybe Q2, but I can't remember exactly when it was fixed). And you might get your wish on dedicated DragonFly ports... [teaser]
TallGuyShort 14y ago
I'm really sick of people ragging on the BSD's for their bad user experience. Dragonfly BSD has as its explicit goal to try develop ideas for a cluster operating system. Where did you get the idea that they were trying to deliver BSD on the desktop? Try PC BSD if that's what you want.