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Thats just the thing we need to keep the roads safe. Police looking through cell phone video of people going 15mph over the speed limit in modern vehicles that

Thats just the thing we need to keep the roads safe. Police looking through cell phone video of people going 15mph over the speed limit in modern vehicles that can easily safely go much faster. Ohhhh hackernews.

Evbn 14y ago
Modern vehicles in coordinated patterns can go fast safely. Modern drivers, not so much.
- CamperBob2 14y ago
  Modern vehicles in coordinated patterns can go fast safely. Modern drivers, not so much. Evidence suggests otherwise (http://www.iihs.org/research/fatality.aspx?topicName=OverviewofFatalityFacts http://www.iihs.org/research/fatality.aspx?topicName=Overvie...).
  - nitrogen 14y ago
    According to your link, 34% of freeway fatalities are speeding related[0]. I wonder how that compares to non-fatal crashes and drivers in general. For example, if 34% of all drivers are speeding, and speeding is mostly uncorrelated to fatal crashes, then it would make sense for 34% of fatalities to involve speeding. [0] "Speeding was defined to include crashes in which the driver was issued a traffic citation for speeding or in which driver-related factors coded indicated speed as a factor (driving too fast for conditions, racing, or exceeding the posted speed limit)."
    - CamperBob2 14y ago
      For example, if 34% of all drivers are speeding, and speeding is mostly uncorrelated to fatal crashes, then it would make sense for 34% of fatalities to involve speeding. That's indeed a problem with the statistics, as is their conflation of exceeding a posted limit with driving too fast for conditions. These kinds of games are played all the time -- for instance, consider how an "alcohol related accident" is considered by some authorities to be one in which anyone including passengers in any involved vehicle were over the BAC limit. The resulting biased statistics make it hard to get the straight story on what factors genuinely affect traffic safety and what factors are overhyped for other purposes. In this case, it's probably worth keeping in mind how profitable insurance surcharges for speeding tickets are for the companies that sponsor the IIHS.

Evbn 14y ago

Modern vehicles in coordinated patterns can go fast safely. Modern drivers, not so much.

CamperBob2 14y ago
Modern vehicles in coordinated patterns can go fast safely. Modern drivers, not so much. Evidence suggests otherwise (http://www.iihs.org/research/fatality.aspx?topicName=OverviewofFatalityFacts http://www.iihs.org/research/fatality.aspx?topicName=Overvie...).
- nitrogen 14y ago
  According to your link, 34% of freeway fatalities are speeding related[0]. I wonder how that compares to non-fatal crashes and drivers in general. For example, if 34% of all drivers are speeding, and speeding is mostly uncorrelated to fatal crashes, then it would make sense for 34% of fatalities to involve speeding. [0] "Speeding was defined to include crashes in which the driver was issued a traffic citation for speeding or in which driver-related factors coded indicated speed as a factor (driving too fast for conditions, racing, or exceeding the posted speed limit)."
  - CamperBob2 14y ago
    For example, if 34% of all drivers are speeding, and speeding is mostly uncorrelated to fatal crashes, then it would make sense for 34% of fatalities to involve speeding. That's indeed a problem with the statistics, as is their conflation of exceeding a posted limit with driving too fast for conditions. These kinds of games are played all the time -- for instance, consider how an "alcohol related accident" is considered by some authorities to be one in which anyone including passengers in any involved vehicle were over the BAC limit. The resulting biased statistics make it hard to get the straight story on what factors genuinely affect traffic safety and what factors are overhyped for other purposes. In this case, it's probably worth keeping in mind how profitable insurance surcharges for speeding tickets are for the companies that sponsor the IIHS.