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As far as I can tell, "left wing" or "leftist" mostly doesn't refer to any coherent ideology or group of people, so much as acting as a catch-all term for thing

• eudamoniac 7mo ago
  And yet this incoherent group of people all vote for the same candidates...
  • advael 7mo ago
    Yea except when everything that happens is the fault of "leftists" because they didn't vote for the same candidate, or maybe did but had some critiques of them. Sometimes "leftists" include anyone who has ever voted for a democrat, sometimes "the left" is only the people who dislike the mainstream of the democratic or labor or CDU or insert electorally-viable party here and of course then anything bad that happens to them is the fault of "the left". Sometimes "leftists" are weak and have no sense of reality and can't possibly accomplish anything in the real world, but sometimes "the left" is an omnipresent cabal that secretly rules society and can destroy the careers of celebrities. Who exactly this consists of, what their interests are, what real organizations represent those interests, and even what they want seems to vary a lot based on who you're asking and what point they're trying to make today Also of course if you're one of "those people" - some sort of minority or a woman or something - and don't loudly say conspicuously jingoistic shit that throws most other people that share your aberration under the bus, people will often assume you're a radical leftist. Unless of course radical leftists are the actual cause of your problems in some hypothetical argument being presented to you unprompted by someone who heard it on a podcast. The left is everyone and the left is no one