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> Maybe it's just me, but if I were in such a suboptimal defensive materiel position, I would try diplomacy first. Such a nice thought. I wonder why they didn'

> Maybe it's just me, but if I were in such a suboptimal defensive materiel position, I would try diplomacy first. Such a nice thought. I wonder why they didn't do it? They must just be a bad, warmongering people. Oh wait, almost forgot... > Iran and Israel have maintained no diplomatic relations since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, and their relationship has been characterized by hostility ever since. Originally, relations were relatively cordial during the first three decades of Israeli independence, and saw close partnership between the two countries. However, following the revolution, Iran adopted the elimination of Israel as a Jewish state as a core component of its foreign policy.[1] The Iranian government refuses to recognize Israel’s legitimacy as a state, calling for its destruction. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_relations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_relations)

themafia 8mo ago
> I wonder why they didn't do it? "We tried nothing and it didn't work." > They must just be a bad, warmongering people. Oh wait, the other side is though, so that justifies everything. Convenient. > The Iranian government Yet when you drill down to actual public opinion the picture is more complicated. It's almost as if you tried something you could have a measurable impact there. Political pressure has been known to change regime positions before. You might even consider showing Palestine some extremely inexpensive good will as a softening gesture towards opening dialog directly with Iran. The great part of diplomacy is you can actually say the quiet part out loud without shame as you work towards peace. "We're changing our policy on Palestine as a means of opening dialog with Iran." Now you have international pressure on your side as well.
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thrance 8mo ago
The nuclear agreements with Iran worked very well, Iran followed them and there was peace. Then Trump unilateraly decided they weren't good enough anymore, refused Iran's requests to negotiate new ones, and joined Israel in their forever war against muslims in the goal of establishing a "Greater Israel". The joint US-Israeli venture is the sole aggressor in this war, that much is clear to everyone not completely brainwashed.
- dlubarov 8mo ago
  The parent didn't say anything about nukes. Israel can't ignore endless bombardment by Iranian proxies forever, even if it did remain conventional.

themafia 8mo ago

> I wonder why they didn't do it? "We tried nothing and it didn't work." > They must just be a bad, warmongering people. Oh wait, the other side is though, so that justifies everything. Convenient. > The Iranian government Yet when you drill down to actual public opinion the picture is more complicated. It's almost as if you tried something you could have a measurable impact there. Political pressure has been known to change regime positions before. You might even consider showing Palestine some extremely inexpensive good will as a softening gesture towards opening dialog directly with Iran. The great part of diplomacy is you can actually say the quiet part out loud without shame as you work towards peace. "We're changing our policy on Palestine as a means of opening dialog with Iran." Now you have international pressure on your side as well.

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thrance 8mo ago

The nuclear agreements with Iran worked very well, Iran followed them and there was peace. Then Trump unilateraly decided they weren't good enough anymore, refused Iran's requests to negotiate new ones, and joined Israel in their forever war against muslims in the goal of establishing a "Greater Israel". The joint US-Israeli venture is the sole aggressor in this war, that much is clear to everyone not completely brainwashed.

dlubarov 8mo ago
The parent didn't say anything about nukes. Israel can't ignore endless bombardment by Iranian proxies forever, even if it did remain conventional.