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If I received the car for free from my government, I would consider accepting these terms. Otherwise, this is a huge not interested.

gedy 7mo ago
You are going summon the Strongtowns fans here: "well actually..."
- pastel8739 7mo ago
  Good call
pastel8739 7mo ago
Note, though, that you do receive the roads that make your car useful for “free” (taxes) from your government.
- mothballed 7mo ago
  Pretty common in my area to drive from one house to another or house to farm without ever hitting a tax funded road.
  - WalterGR 7mo ago
    That’s surprising. Do you all grade it, maintain the bridges, add gravel, and plow the snow yourselves? Does the USPS have no issue with delivering mail via private property? Do you still not have 911 service? (In rural Missouri we got 911 service in the 90s...) Do kids take the bus to school? Or if you mean that you're driving through fields to visit a neighbor (during favorable seasons and no recent rain) rather than take roads, doesn't opening and closing all the gates in the fences slow you down?
    - mothballed 7mo ago
      >Do you all grade it, maintain the bridges, and plow the snow yourselves? Yes. Including the bridges which was done diy, lol. I have all my own road maintenance heavy equipment and fix the roads if they get bad. And yes i mean a real road network. Basically my entire 'town' is private road easements without any government or even HOA/ psuedogovernment administering them, there are not gates to open or close. >Does the USPS have no issue with delivering mail via private property? USPS won't come here. UPS and FedEx does though. I have no government mail service. Kids can get to a school via bus but you would have to park at the interface between private roads and the nearest public road. Bus won't drive on our private road network. You can get to some schools 100% by private roads, depends on which one.
    - defrost 7mo ago
      Western Australia is similar - three times the land area of Texas and large areas of "private" roads - Minesites, Wheatbelt (both have their own private rail systems in addition to road ways and open fields / oterwise off road). There are fleets of vehicles I'm aware of that rarely, if ever, hit tax payer funded public roads or rail. These fleets include graders, dozers, rollers, et al for private road maintenance. These are real, your skepticism is understandable but not applicable. In parallel with private vehicles on private roads there are also public roads upon which school buses travel (assuming kids don't just off-road it to school on a motorcycle or, still today, a horse).
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gedy 7mo ago

You are going summon the Strongtowns fans here: "well actually..."

pastel8739 7mo ago
Good call

pastel8739 7mo ago

Note, though, that you do receive the roads that make your car useful for “free” (taxes) from your government.

mothballed 7mo ago
Pretty common in my area to drive from one house to another or house to farm without ever hitting a tax funded road.
- WalterGR 7mo ago
  That’s surprising. Do you all grade it, maintain the bridges, add gravel, and plow the snow yourselves? Does the USPS have no issue with delivering mail via private property? Do you still not have 911 service? (In rural Missouri we got 911 service in the 90s...) Do kids take the bus to school? Or if you mean that you're driving through fields to visit a neighbor (during favorable seasons and no recent rain) rather than take roads, doesn't opening and closing all the gates in the fences slow you down?
  - mothballed 7mo ago
    >Do you all grade it, maintain the bridges, and plow the snow yourselves? Yes. Including the bridges which was done diy, lol. I have all my own road maintenance heavy equipment and fix the roads if they get bad. And yes i mean a real road network. Basically my entire 'town' is private road easements without any government or even HOA/ psuedogovernment administering them, there are not gates to open or close. >Does the USPS have no issue with delivering mail via private property? USPS won't come here. UPS and FedEx does though. I have no government mail service. Kids can get to a school via bus but you would have to park at the interface between private roads and the nearest public road. Bus won't drive on our private road network. You can get to some schools 100% by private roads, depends on which one.
  - defrost 7mo ago
    Western Australia is similar - three times the land area of Texas and large areas of "private" roads - Minesites, Wheatbelt (both have their own private rail systems in addition to road ways and open fields / oterwise off road). There are fleets of vehicles I'm aware of that rarely, if ever, hit tax payer funded public roads or rail. These fleets include graders, dozers, rollers, et al for private road maintenance. These are real, your skepticism is understandable but not applicable. In parallel with private vehicles on private roads there are also public roads upon which school buses travel (assuming kids don't just off-road it to school on a motorcycle or, still today, a horse).
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