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Some people are being played like a gosh dang fiddle. Y'all are so pavlovian that you see Zuck/Meta and instantly rage. The alternative to OS based verificati
by bryan_w 7mo ago
Some people are being played like a gosh dang fiddle.
Y'all are so pavlovian that you see Zuck/Meta and instantly rage.
The alternative to OS based verification isn't no verification. It's cloud-based verification
The cloud verifiers have all the interest in the world to making you hate the idea that this problem could be solved at the OS level without any third party involvement
- raincole 7mo agoExactly. And the funniest part is that when Steam implemented cloud-based verification for UK compliance, many people on HN suggested that the correct approach is to verify on hardware/OS level.
- pocksuppet 7mo agoWe're just antisheeple who'll go for the opposite of whatever our flock leader says.
- iamnothere 7mo agoNot by legal mandate! And especially not a universal one that applies to FOSS! If legislators want to create some kind of legal category of child friendly device and put requirements around it, maybe that’s ok. Until they attempt to ban, restrict, or otherwise inconvenience non child friendly devices, and I guess I no longer have confidence that they won’t attempt that. At this point I’m only in favor of market based solutions and IDGAF if that fails. Our country is apparently incapable of intelligent, fair legislation, and it’s going to be the end of us as a society.
- tstrimple 7mo ago> Not by legal mandate! And especially not a universal one that applies to FOSS! How the fuck do you think these sorts of standards are created? The companies involved aren't going to do it out of the goodness of their hearts. That doesn't exist. So you've got multiple competing private standards which are all more privacy invasive or an option when you setup your account to specify an age that is reported to anyone who asks and is required to be accepted as true. The alternatives currently are uploading your photo ID to random websites to get access. And you think that's a better solution?
- iamnothere 7mo agoI am free to not use those websites (and I don’t). I use alternatives that don’t comply. If this passes, and when it inevitably gets expanded, I won’t be free to use my computer the way I want to.
- ArchieScrivener 7mo agoArguments for the lesser of two evils are just wrappers for slippery slope logic. The actual alternative is to pass air tight privacy laws that restrain the growing power of control systems.
- bryan_w 7mo agoIt's not a slippery slope if it's already slipped. In over 20 states you have to do age verifications with online companies in order to do "adult" things online