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I use Gimp pretty sporadically but the latest UI refresh (I’m guessing introduced in 3.0?) completely baffles me. It might just be that it’s better tailored fo

by hnlmorg 8mo ago

I use Gimp pretty sporadically but the latest UI refresh (I’m guessing introduced in 3.0?) completely baffles me. It might just be that it’s better tailored for graphic designers, which I’m clearly not. But now I can’t even figure out how to draw a square on screen. Let along anything clever.

masfuerte 8mo ago
Select a rectangle. Stroke or fill the selection. I agree it's a bit counter-intuitive, but afaik it's always worked like that.
- hnlmorg 8mo ago
  I don’t see that option. Maybe the issue is my installation has broken in some odd way. I’ll try completely removing it and all preferences, then reinstalling.
  - masfuerte 8mo ago
    Type "R" to enter rectangle select mode. Click and drag on the image to select. "Stroke Selection" and various fills are on the Edit menu.
- dingdingdang 8mo ago
  It always had worked like that and it has always been a 100% nonintuitive and peculiar way to deal with this operation
cmyk_student 8mo ago
Hi! What was the last version of GIMP that you used before 3.0? We get an equal amount of "GIMP's UI never changes!" and "You changed too much of the UI in the latest version", so it's difficult sometimes to figure out the specific issues.
- hnlmorg 8mo ago
  I’ve been using it for at least a decade, likely longer. Albeit I might only use it, at most, for a few hours every few months. So I’m definitely not a seasoned expert despite that length of time. But I always considered myself reasonably competent. I usually indifferent about UI changes, I’m not someone who tends to complain either for nor against. So this isn’t a complaint about Gimp changing thing (if that’s what happened). The issue here is really more about how I now cannot figure out the simple things any more. And that might just be on me rather than Gimp.
purerandomness 8mo ago
If you want to draw squares, you're probably looking for a vector drawing program, like Inkscape.
- hnlmorg 8mo ago
  Comments like yours miss the point. In fact worse, they just serve to stagnate FOSS because it pushes the assumption that the software is always right and users are idiots, without taking any time to understand what those users are actually trying to do. There are hundreds of good reasons why someone might want to overlay a vector shape on a bitmap image. The desire to draw shapes on bitmap isn’t something weird that I’ve just invented for HN. It’s been a staple feature such graphics packages since the inception of bitmap graphics editing. And it’s been a staple feature of Gimp since I first switched to Linux in the 90s. But that’s all moot because I was just making an arbitrary example. And as an aside, I do use vector drawing software too. So I’m fully aware of their existence.
infotainment 8mo ago
Don't worry, GIMP's UI never made any sense to anyone (Graphic Designer or otherwise), save for hardcore GIMP fans.

by hnlmorg 8mo ago

masfuerte 8mo ago

Select a rectangle. Stroke or fill the selection. I agree it's a bit counter-intuitive, but afaik it's always worked like that.

hnlmorg 8mo ago
I don’t see that option. Maybe the issue is my installation has broken in some odd way. I’ll try completely removing it and all preferences, then reinstalling.
- masfuerte 8mo ago
  Type "R" to enter rectangle select mode. Click and drag on the image to select. "Stroke Selection" and various fills are on the Edit menu.
dingdingdang 8mo ago
It always had worked like that and it has always been a 100% nonintuitive and peculiar way to deal with this operation

cmyk_student 8mo ago

Hi! What was the last version of GIMP that you used before 3.0? We get an equal amount of "GIMP's UI never changes!" and "You changed too much of the UI in the latest version", so it's difficult sometimes to figure out the specific issues.

hnlmorg 8mo ago
I’ve been using it for at least a decade, likely longer. Albeit I might only use it, at most, for a few hours every few months. So I’m definitely not a seasoned expert despite that length of time. But I always considered myself reasonably competent. I usually indifferent about UI changes, I’m not someone who tends to complain either for nor against. So this isn’t a complaint about Gimp changing thing (if that’s what happened). The issue here is really more about how I now cannot figure out the simple things any more. And that might just be on me rather than Gimp.

purerandomness 8mo ago

If you want to draw squares, you're probably looking for a vector drawing program, like Inkscape.

hnlmorg 8mo ago
Comments like yours miss the point. In fact worse, they just serve to stagnate FOSS because it pushes the assumption that the software is always right and users are idiots, without taking any time to understand what those users are actually trying to do. There are hundreds of good reasons why someone might want to overlay a vector shape on a bitmap image. The desire to draw shapes on bitmap isn’t something weird that I’ve just invented for HN. It’s been a staple feature such graphics packages since the inception of bitmap graphics editing. And it’s been a staple feature of Gimp since I first switched to Linux in the 90s. But that’s all moot because I was just making an arbitrary example. And as an aside, I do use vector drawing software too. So I’m fully aware of their existence.

infotainment 8mo ago

Don't worry, GIMP's UI never made any sense to anyone (Graphic Designer or otherwise), save for hardcore GIMP fans.