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If you believe UBI can work, why do you think communism failed?
by xixixao 7mo ago
If you believe UBI can work, why do you think communism failed?
- MrDrDr 7mo agoI'm not sure UBI would work. But what's that got to do with communism? Communism failed (IMO), because it was incompatible with human nature. People form social hierarchies and like to own property. Would UBI prevent that?
- xixixao 7mo agoYou are answering my question - you posit that communism failed because people like to own property (and form social hierarchies) - and UBI doesn’t prevent those. I’m not sure this is the case. Especially since people did form social hierarchies and did own propety in communist/socialist regimes of the Eastern block. One might argue that UBI is incompatible with human nature, because most humans require a sense of worth, which paid work provides (to most). Take away the motivation, will the self-worthiness remain? (especially when thinking about _most_ people, not the struggling artists who wished they could pursue art without the burden of bills). I’m not sure about this at all. I just think drawing the parallels and discussing communism failure modes is interesting for the discussion of UBI.
- beej71 7mo agoSeems to be ok in Alaska.
- xixixao 7mo agoI don’t think Alaska has the kind of UBI people are discussing here? You probably cannot survive on $1000/year. In that situation it doesn’t seem much different to social programs standard in Europe + progressive tax.
- orangecat 7mo agoUBI doesn't replace market forces with central planning. You're still incentivized to produce goods and services that other people want, and to do so more efficiently than your competitors.