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interesting comparison to cooking. cooking is a chore and takes effort and people enjoy cooking.

• bluefirebrand 7mo ago
  Eating is also not really optional If you're going to spend a pretty good chunk of your lifetime eating, you might as well get good at it so you can enjoy the food you make
  • IanCal 7mo ago
    Do you want to eat good food or make good food? Is doing the dishes something you hand to a machine or do you always do it by hand? Are there any ingredients you buy pre-made (pesto, curry pastes, do you make your own panko breadcrumbs)?
    • apsurd 7mo ago
      Aren't you proving the point that it's nuanced? Thread seems to be saying LLMs are great because they do the dirty work and leave the fun work to humans. The counter-point is not exactly that LLMs aren't capable of doing dirty-work, it's that the nature of work isn't going to split so cleanly. And cooking is a good example. Cooking is work. And slop. And it's also incredibly rewarding and creative, if you want it to be. Robots can help along that entire journey. Maybe this is the core point: "cooking is a solved problem" that's how engineers always think. Except it's not. And 100% automation is still not going to break that discussion so cleanly.
      • IanCal 7mo ago
        The comment I was responding to was looking at a state where we looked at markdown files instead of programming, my point was to agree with the original quote that they can remove the drudgery. > Maybe this is the core point: "cooking is a solved problem" that's how engineers always think. But it isn’t, that’s a lazy stereotype of a subset.
        • apsurd 7mo ago
          Gotcha. the engineer generalization was to plant a stake in the ground. I do hear that quite often, especially from higher titled engineers. in any case, definitely admit it's not all of them, and perhaps it's even a vocal minority that i'm better served to intentionally work to expand my influences.
    • bluefirebrand 7mo ago
      My point, which you seem to have missed, is that people have an intrinsic incentive to care about learning to cook because eating is something we have to do every single day regardless No such incentive exists for building software
      • IanCal 7mo ago
        No such incentive exists for an enormous amount of what humans do. People don’t only build software because they have to.
        • bluefirebrand 7mo ago
          I wasn't saying otherwise, I was only making the point that cooking is a terrible counter example