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For any non professional work its there for me. Wire up authentication system with sso. done Setup websockets, stream audio from mic, transcribe with elvenlabs

For any non professional work its there for me. Wire up authentication system with sso. done Setup websockets, stream audio from mic, transcribe with elvenlabs. done. Shit that would take me hours takes literally 5 mins.

leptons 7mo ago
All that stuff would take me about 5 minutes without AI. Those are things with 10,000 examples all over the web. AI is good at distilling the known solutions. But anything even slightly out of the ordinary, it fails miserably. I'd much rather write that code myself instead of spend an hour convincing an AI to do it for me.
- andoando 7mo ago
  There is absolutely no way. Those tasks take 5 mins to do. Itd be done by the time you read the documentation for elvenlabs
  - gedy 7mo ago
    You might be comparing people who know how to do something vs those who don't.
    - iihhhyfvhj 7mo ago
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- andoando 7mo ago
  Im curious though, what do you consider slightly out of the ordinary that it fails to do?
  - lpnam0201 7mo ago
    Haven't tried Claude for this, but I can't think how it could possibly do. I built a game bot using Win32 API to send input and screen capture to OCR and some OpenCV to recognize game elements. Dead simple and actually quite boring and repeatitive after I worked on it for a while. How could Claude agents possibly do this ? I did use Claude to refer docs and API, though.
    - DennisP 7mo ago
      That actually sounds like something Claude could do pretty easily. Yegge's book describes his coauthor's first vibe coding project. It went through screenshots he'd saved of youtube videos, read the time with OCR, looked up transcripts, and generated video snippets with subtitles added. (I think this was before youtube added subtitles itself.) He had it done in 45 minutes. And using agents to control other applications is pretty common.
    - in_cahoots 7mo ago
      My elementary schooler did this with pictures of his stuffed animals last week. I helped a little bit, but most of it was Claude. He's never coded before.
      - leptons 7mo ago
        Great, and you've taught him to never learn to code. That's not as great an achievment as you might think it is.
        in_cahoots 7mo ago
        Yes, I've doomed him all because of a 30 minute interaction. Just like when he watched Kerbal Space Program videos on YouTube he lost all motivation to get to the moon himself. Oh wait. And he definitely doesn't make up missions using the mission builder using if / then loops. He'll never learn to code. Oh the humanity. I'd rather have my kid typing on a real keyboard into Claude, asking questions about what Python, and modifying the Claude-generated code than watching random videos and playing Roblox on his iPad.
      - iihhhyfvhj 7mo ago
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- coldtea 7mo ago
  >All that stuff would take me about 5 minutes without AI. No, it wouldn't. Merely finding the examples and deps would take over an hour.
  - conartist6 7mo ago
    Back when, we'd just go write a blog post or SO answer so the next person wouldn't suffer as much. Thank god THOSE days are over and everyone just lets everyone else suffer alone now
    - coldtea 7mo ago
      And when those resources dry up for newer stuff, and LLMs start training on LLM output, they'll start degrading
  - iijaachok 7mo ago
    Yes, because search engines are populated with SEO-optimized LLM-filled articles that say nothing of value anymore. The only reason AI-assisted tools are "better" is because Web search is so much worse.
    - mexicocitinluez 7mo ago
      It's like everyone forgot that the first result for anything web-related would be W3schools, and the next 5 would be spam message boards that tries to scrape all the other boards and sends you to a porn site when you click on it.
      - mrbombastic 7mo ago
        Yeah it is worse now but I don’t remember it ever being good. If you know where to look and have a trusted set of resources curated sure, but of course you won’t for unfamiliar territory which is exactly what LLMs help with.
- mexicocitinluez 7mo ago
  > All that stuff would take me about 5 minutes without AI. There isn't a single person on this planet (detractor or not) that would believe this statement. If you're argument rests on an insane amount of hyperbole (that immediately comes off as just lying), then maybe it's not a great argument. > I'd much rather write that code myself instead of spend an hour convincing an AI to do it for me. You're not suggesting that asking CC to build the UI for a route planner takes me an hour to type, are you?
  - ch4s3 7mo ago
    > There isn't a single person on this planet (detractor or not) that would believe this statement. It's so galling to see people say shit like this. It's like the old build slack in a weekend trope.
  - leptons 7mo ago
    >Wire up authentication system with sso. Simple npm install, all of it has already been distilled into dozens of similar repos. Just pick one, install it, and follow the simple use case. 5 minutes if we're in a race. >done Setup websockets If this takes you more than 5 minutes, then you're a shit developer. >stream audio from mic Again, another npm install or two, simple POC could take 5 minutes. >transcribe with elvenlabs I don't know what elvenlabs is, nor do I care, but I doubt it's as complex as the OP thinks it is considering the rest of their comment was about simple, solved problems.

leptons 7mo ago

All that stuff would take me about 5 minutes without AI. Those are things with 10,000 examples all over the web. AI is good at distilling the known solutions. But anything even slightly out of the ordinary, it fails miserably. I'd much rather write that code myself instead of spend an hour convincing an AI to do it for me.

andoando 7mo ago
There is absolutely no way. Those tasks take 5 mins to do. Itd be done by the time you read the documentation for elvenlabs
- gedy 7mo ago
  You might be comparing people who know how to do something vs those who don't.
  - iihhhyfvhj 7mo ago
    [dead]
andoando 7mo ago
Im curious though, what do you consider slightly out of the ordinary that it fails to do?
- lpnam0201 7mo ago
  Haven't tried Claude for this, but I can't think how it could possibly do. I built a game bot using Win32 API to send input and screen capture to OCR and some OpenCV to recognize game elements. Dead simple and actually quite boring and repeatitive after I worked on it for a while. How could Claude agents possibly do this ? I did use Claude to refer docs and API, though.
  - DennisP 7mo ago
    That actually sounds like something Claude could do pretty easily. Yegge's book describes his coauthor's first vibe coding project. It went through screenshots he'd saved of youtube videos, read the time with OCR, looked up transcripts, and generated video snippets with subtitles added. (I think this was before youtube added subtitles itself.) He had it done in 45 minutes. And using agents to control other applications is pretty common.
  - in_cahoots 7mo ago
    My elementary schooler did this with pictures of his stuffed animals last week. I helped a little bit, but most of it was Claude. He's never coded before.
    - leptons 7mo ago
      Great, and you've taught him to never learn to code. That's not as great an achievment as you might think it is.
      - in_cahoots 7mo ago
        Yes, I've doomed him all because of a 30 minute interaction. Just like when he watched Kerbal Space Program videos on YouTube he lost all motivation to get to the moon himself. Oh wait. And he definitely doesn't make up missions using the mission builder using if / then loops. He'll never learn to code. Oh the humanity. I'd rather have my kid typing on a real keyboard into Claude, asking questions about what Python, and modifying the Claude-generated code than watching random videos and playing Roblox on his iPad.
    - iihhhyfvhj 7mo ago
      [dead]
coldtea 7mo ago
>All that stuff would take me about 5 minutes without AI. No, it wouldn't. Merely finding the examples and deps would take over an hour.
- conartist6 7mo ago
  Back when, we'd just go write a blog post or SO answer so the next person wouldn't suffer as much. Thank god THOSE days are over and everyone just lets everyone else suffer alone now
  - coldtea 7mo ago
    And when those resources dry up for newer stuff, and LLMs start training on LLM output, they'll start degrading
- iijaachok 7mo ago
  Yes, because search engines are populated with SEO-optimized LLM-filled articles that say nothing of value anymore. The only reason AI-assisted tools are "better" is because Web search is so much worse.
  - mexicocitinluez 7mo ago
    It's like everyone forgot that the first result for anything web-related would be W3schools, and the next 5 would be spam message boards that tries to scrape all the other boards and sends you to a porn site when you click on it.
    - mrbombastic 7mo ago
      Yeah it is worse now but I don’t remember it ever being good. If you know where to look and have a trusted set of resources curated sure, but of course you won’t for unfamiliar territory which is exactly what LLMs help with.
mexicocitinluez 7mo ago
> All that stuff would take me about 5 minutes without AI. There isn't a single person on this planet (detractor or not) that would believe this statement. If you're argument rests on an insane amount of hyperbole (that immediately comes off as just lying), then maybe it's not a great argument. > I'd much rather write that code myself instead of spend an hour convincing an AI to do it for me. You're not suggesting that asking CC to build the UI for a route planner takes me an hour to type, are you?
- ch4s3 7mo ago
  > There isn't a single person on this planet (detractor or not) that would believe this statement. It's so galling to see people say shit like this. It's like the old build slack in a weekend trope.
- leptons 7mo ago
  >Wire up authentication system with sso. Simple npm install, all of it has already been distilled into dozens of similar repos. Just pick one, install it, and follow the simple use case. 5 minutes if we're in a race. >done Setup websockets If this takes you more than 5 minutes, then you're a shit developer. >stream audio from mic Again, another npm install or two, simple POC could take 5 minutes. >transcribe with elvenlabs I don't know what elvenlabs is, nor do I care, but I doubt it's as complex as the OP thinks it is considering the rest of their comment was about simple, solved problems.