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> the sponsor of Louisiana's HB-570, publicly confirmed that a Meta lobbyist brought the legislative language directly to her. The bill as drafted required only
by theptip 7mo ago
> the sponsor of Louisiana's HB-570, publicly confirmed that a Meta lobbyist brought the legislative language directly to her. The bill as drafted required only app stores (Apple, Google) to verify user ages. It did not require social media platforms to do anything.
Thing is, when these “make the websites collect your ID” proposals come up, the overwhelming sentiment here is “this is terrible and we need to do it lower in the stack”. I think the OS is a better place than the website. (Let security conscious folks use a standalone device too if desired.)
The astroturfing stuff is obviously sus, I don’t have a feel for whether this is egregious by the standards of $T companies or just par.
Of course, the EU option of using proper ZK proofs etc sounds way better as portrayed in the OP. But when you actually dig in, doesn’t the EU effectively mandate OS support too, eg https://eudi.dev/1.7.1/architecture-and-reference-framework-main/ https://eudi.dev/1.7.1/architecture-and-reference-framework-..., https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-doc-architecture-and-reference-framework/discussions/361 https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-doc-archi... ? Maybe this isn’t set yet but it seems a likely direction at least.
- inetknght 7mo ago> Thing is, when these “make the websites collect your ID” proposals come up, the overwhelming sentiment here is “this is terrible and we need to do it lower in the stack”. Perhaps the "overwhelming" sentiment is paid actors? Or people whose jobs depend on not having that risk assigned to their employers?
- theptip 7mo agoPerhaps, or perhaps there are legitimate privacy concerns with requiring every website to collect a photo of your ID to prove you are not a minor?
- inetknght 7mo agoThere are legitimate privacy concerns with requiring every website to collect a photo of your ID to prove you are not a minor. Those concerns are amplified when it's done even lower in the stack. You don't want a website to collect your ID? Neither do I. I also don't want my OS to collect anything about me either.
- theptip 7mo agoIs that true though? I trust MSFT, AAPL, GOOG, META more than I trust every website that would be collecting IDs. Most of those guys already have my payment info anyway. Centralization at the major corporations allows (in principle, if regulators act) tight monitoring, high standards, and you are always free to mandate privacy-preserving solutions like the EU did. I can’t tell if you’re just anti- any age verification, or if you legitimately think that conditional on age verification happening, you’d rather that every website starts collecting ID as part of signup. Can you help me understand why you think it’s better for every single website (eg porn, chat sites, forums, etc) to be required to collect photos of your ID?