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Trump was a registered Democrat and he sure as Hell isn't a conservative, so in a weird way that statement actually checks out.

cocacola1 8mo ago
He’s definitely a conservative.
- AnimalMuppet 8mo ago
  Depends on your definition. He's sure not what was considered "conservative" a decade or two ago. But he is what is currently labeled "conservative". The older definition was small government, limited federal power, fiscally conservative, protect the Constitution. The new definition is... something very different.
  - fzeroracer 8mo ago
    This hasn't been true for probably over 40 years. Every conservative presidency has resulted in causing more budgetary issues, increasing the power of the feds and chipping away at the constitution. You can look at the actions taken and the budget over the years. Reagan massively blew up the national debt with Reaganomics, George W followed in his wake and so did Trump. The new definition of the GOP is just what happens when the mask fully falls off and they don't feel a need to lie to people.
- mindslight 8mo ago
  In the pejorative sense the word has taken on as the wheels have slowly come off the cart for the past several decades, sure. But as far as the lofty ideals outlined by conservative thinkers, an "institutional arsonist" is basically the polar opposite. The conservatives with any principles remaining got labeled "RINO" and sidelined. And that's saying a lot given what had previously passed for principles. A correct term is "reactionary", as Yarvin outlines in A Gentle Introduction... . Or less awkwardly and more plainly, "fascist".
lovich 8mo ago
It doesn’t because he’s done all his bad shit as the Republican candidate. Like the Jesus with you as well and being able to type that out and believe it
- mindslight 8mo ago
  Oh come on, there's no need to argue with everybody. I was just amplifying the absurdity and throwing it back in terms the fascists understand.
subscribed 8mo ago
Out of these two he is DEFINITELY not a Democrat, and the current MAGA-flavoured Republican regime supports him across the board so...... And it's quite clear he doesn't support democracy in any way possible.
- mindslight 8mo ago
  I'm just curious - did you see that I also wrote the top-level comment strongly condemning Grump, that brought out the crazies in the first place? I didn't intend the follow up comment be be taken as a hyper-literal statement of facts, and it feels like that directionality should have been clear from context.
  - subscribed 7mo ago
    I did, and I didn't see it as contradictory or anything, more line explaining its your honest opinion and not tribal politics. I don't think you were right though, and this is why I responded like that. Thanks for taking time to come back to it!

cocacola1 8mo ago

He’s definitely a conservative.

AnimalMuppet 8mo ago
Depends on your definition. He's sure not what was considered "conservative" a decade or two ago. But he is what is currently labeled "conservative". The older definition was small government, limited federal power, fiscally conservative, protect the Constitution. The new definition is... something very different.
- fzeroracer 8mo ago
  This hasn't been true for probably over 40 years. Every conservative presidency has resulted in causing more budgetary issues, increasing the power of the feds and chipping away at the constitution. You can look at the actions taken and the budget over the years. Reagan massively blew up the national debt with Reaganomics, George W followed in his wake and so did Trump. The new definition of the GOP is just what happens when the mask fully falls off and they don't feel a need to lie to people.
mindslight 8mo ago
In the pejorative sense the word has taken on as the wheels have slowly come off the cart for the past several decades, sure. But as far as the lofty ideals outlined by conservative thinkers, an "institutional arsonist" is basically the polar opposite. The conservatives with any principles remaining got labeled "RINO" and sidelined. And that's saying a lot given what had previously passed for principles. A correct term is "reactionary", as Yarvin outlines in A Gentle Introduction... . Or less awkwardly and more plainly, "fascist".

lovich 8mo ago

It doesn’t because he’s done all his bad shit as the Republican candidate. Like the Jesus with you as well and being able to type that out and believe it

mindslight 8mo ago
Oh come on, there's no need to argue with everybody. I was just amplifying the absurdity and throwing it back in terms the fascists understand.

subscribed 8mo ago

Out of these two he is DEFINITELY not a Democrat, and the current MAGA-flavoured Republican regime supports him across the board so...... And it's quite clear he doesn't support democracy in any way possible.

mindslight 8mo ago
I'm just curious - did you see that I also wrote the top-level comment strongly condemning Grump, that brought out the crazies in the first place? I didn't intend the follow up comment be be taken as a hyper-literal statement of facts, and it feels like that directionality should have been clear from context.
- subscribed 7mo ago
  I did, and I didn't see it as contradictory or anything, more line explaining its your honest opinion and not tribal politics. I don't think you were right though, and this is why I responded like that. Thanks for taking time to come back to it!