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A part from the fact it's Seagate, they provide the product as-is and they make the choice of what's inside it. Therefore they are responsible for it. Secondly

by sklivvz1971 14y ago

A part from the fact it's Seagate, they provide the product as-is and they make the choice of what's inside it. Therefore they are responsible for it. Secondly, I do have backups. I didn't have a last-minute backup. The kind of backup you do right before shutting down and changing a hard drive. What makes you think I can't do it myself? I've build my own PCs since I was a kid... :-)

snowwrestler 14y ago
I don't know which model of iMac you have, but on the recent ones, replacing the HD requires removing the glass pane on the front, which is a very tricky operation. The pane is very thin and very large, which means if the force is applied unevenly, it can crack. Apple techs have a stiff aluminum frame with suction cups that they attach to the glass, then they use that to pull the glass off.
- MiguelHudnandez 14y ago
  It looks like as far back as the 2009 model, it does involve removing the screen. The recall notice I received was for models sold 2009-2011. http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+Intel+27-Inch+EMC+2309+and+2374+Hard+Drive+Replacement/1634/1 http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+Intel+27-Inch+EMC+2309+and+...
  - hieronymusN 14y ago
    For the 2009 models you can remove the front glass with suctions cups. You can get the suction cups from Bed, Beth & Beyond. Removing the screen itself is trickier and requires undoing a lot of screws.
- jrabone 14y ago
  Regardless of all the other issues here, that is a triumph of form over function. Consumer hard drives are not noted for their reliability (or they'd come with 5 year warranty like the enterprise version).
  - snowwrestler 14y ago
    I agree with you on form over function. But I'm not aware of any independent study that validates the higher MTBF numbers that manufacturers claim for "enterprise" HDs. The better warranty seems to be mostly a convenience factor that some enterprises are willing to pay for.
  - sbuk 14y ago
    The function of an iMac isn't to remove and replace hard disk drives.
- mistercow 14y ago
  My dad replaced his iMac hard drive, with the whole glass removal thing, and didn't have any problem. Doing it safely just requires a tool like this: http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100119050/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=suction+cup&storeId=10051#.UJV3JiH1Rq0 http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100119050/h_d2/Produ... A lot of people find the process scary, but the risk of breaking the pane is pretty low.
MiguelHudnandez 14y ago
Note I am not the person you just replied to, but the fact that you would wait two weeks for a phone call made me think that you wouldn't replace a hard drive yourself. I have a feeling you don't appropriately value your time. I got the recall notice. You know what I did? I made sure the backups were working and sent the recall notice to the trash. A comparable 1TB hard drive is $100. If you value your own time appropriately, it is not worth your time to proactively replace it. I appreciated the heads up as it was a chance to double check my backups. I never consider a hard drive "safe." The fact that I got a recall notice for a two year old hard drive was shocking to me. All that said, my last "genius" experience was abysmal, as well, but I can give high praise to the business sales team at my local store.

snowwrestler 14y ago

I don't know which model of iMac you have, but on the recent ones, replacing the HD requires removing the glass pane on the front, which is a very tricky operation. The pane is very thin and very large, which means if the force is applied unevenly, it can crack. Apple techs have a stiff aluminum frame with suction cups that they attach to the glass, then they use that to pull the glass off.

MiguelHudnandez 14y ago
It looks like as far back as the 2009 model, it does involve removing the screen. The recall notice I received was for models sold 2009-2011. http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+Intel+27-Inch+EMC+2309+and+2374+Hard+Drive+Replacement/1634/1 http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+Intel+27-Inch+EMC+2309+and+...
- hieronymusN 14y ago
  For the 2009 models you can remove the front glass with suctions cups. You can get the suction cups from Bed, Beth & Beyond. Removing the screen itself is trickier and requires undoing a lot of screws.
jrabone 14y ago
Regardless of all the other issues here, that is a triumph of form over function. Consumer hard drives are not noted for their reliability (or they'd come with 5 year warranty like the enterprise version).
- snowwrestler 14y ago
  I agree with you on form over function. But I'm not aware of any independent study that validates the higher MTBF numbers that manufacturers claim for "enterprise" HDs. The better warranty seems to be mostly a convenience factor that some enterprises are willing to pay for.
- sbuk 14y ago
  The function of an iMac isn't to remove and replace hard disk drives.
mistercow 14y ago
My dad replaced his iMac hard drive, with the whole glass removal thing, and didn't have any problem. Doing it safely just requires a tool like this: http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100119050/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=suction+cup&storeId=10051#.UJV3JiH1Rq0 http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100119050/h_d2/Produ... A lot of people find the process scary, but the risk of breaking the pane is pretty low.

MiguelHudnandez 14y ago

Note I am not the person you just replied to, but the fact that you would wait two weeks for a phone call made me think that you wouldn't replace a hard drive yourself. I have a feeling you don't appropriately value your time. I got the recall notice. You know what I did? I made sure the backups were working and sent the recall notice to the trash. A comparable 1TB hard drive is $100. If you value your own time appropriately, it is not worth your time to proactively replace it. I appreciated the heads up as it was a chance to double check my backups. I never consider a hard drive "safe." The fact that I got a recall notice for a two year old hard drive was shocking to me. All that said, my last "genius" experience was abysmal, as well, but I can give high praise to the business sales team at my local store.